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https://www.optoma.com/au/product/uhd50x/

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- The World’s First 240Hz Cinema Gaming Projector

- Superb Gaming Experience with low 15.7ms Input Lag in Enhanced Gaming Mode

- Bright Room Design with Brightness 3,400 lumens & 500,000:1 Contrast

- Immersive True 4K UHD Resolution with Perfect Pixel Alignment

- BrilliantColor & RGBWRGBW 8 Segment Color Wheel for the Truest and the Most Accurate Colors

- HDR 10 & HLG Supported for Brightest Whites, Deepest Darks, and Lifelike Colors

- Auto 3D Display with ISF Calibration Setting

- HDMI 2.0 Support for Connection to 4K Entertainment

Throw Ratio
1.21 – 1.59:1, ±3%

Zoom Type
1.3x Manual

Lens Shift
105% – 115% ± 5%

Input Lag:

4K 60Hz - 25.8ms
1440P 60Hz - 23.8ms
1080P 60Hz - 23.8ms
1080P 120Hz - 18.2ms
1080P 240Hz - 15.7ms

 

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https://www.optoma.com/au/product/uhd50x/

USA Release date: N/A
Price: N/A

- The World’s First 240Hz Cinema Gaming Projector

- Superb Gaming Experience with low 15.7ms Input Lag in Enhanced Gaming Mode

- Bright Room Design with Brightness 3,400 lumens & 500,000:1 Contrast

- Immersive True 4K UHD Resolution with Perfect Pixel Alignment

- BrilliantColor & RGBWRGBW 8 Segment Color Wheel for the Truest and the Most Accurate Colors

- HDR 10 & HLG Supported for Brightest Whites, Deepest Darks, and Lifelike Colors

-Auto 3D Display with ISF Calibration Setting

- HDMI 2.0 Support for Connection to 4K Entertainment

Throw Ratio
1.21 – 1.59:1, ±3%

Zoom Type
1.3x Manual

Lens Shift
105% – 115% ± 5%

Input Lag:

4K 60Hz - 25.8ms
1440P 60Hz - 23.8ms
1080P 60Hz - 23.8ms
1080P 120Hz - 18.2ms
1080P 240Hz - 15.7m
According to this, will be shown at ISE 2020 and released in March:

https://www.smarthouse.com.au/optoma-to-unveil-the-quadzilla-4k-gaming-projector-for-oz/
 

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I wonder how a input lag of 25.8ms was achieved with 4k 60Hz sources? Is this a new DMD chip? @sage11x was this what you were alluding to?
 

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26ms with xpr? vn... 16ms and 240hz? holy hell... Thats some nice processing power in that projector. the 8 segment wheel is interesting i wonder what the color refresh is, 8x at 240hz so... 1,920hz? o_O 240hz dlp might be some of the best motion performance weve ever seen
 

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It is really awesome seeing Optoma pushing the envelope, although this still isn't the jack of all trades projector I'm looking for. I'll stick with my HD27HDR especially at that pricepoint. I would love to know if it can do 1440p120 (or higher)
 

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It is really awesome seeing Optoma pushing the envelope, although this still isn't the jack of all trades projector I'm looking for. I'll stick with my HD27HDR especially at that pricepoint. I would love to know if it can do 1440p120 (or higher)
With the hardware most people have that would be the resolution/refresh rate manufacturers should aim for.
 

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I believe this projector is using a new chip from TI. The DLP471TE.

http://www.ti.com/product/DLP471TE

Im guessing this will be the new standard going forward for all new .47" UHD projectors.
 
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Are there any compatible AVRs out there?

I believe my Denon X3500 won't support this framerate?
 

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For me as a gamer, this is the one to watch. But this may just be the first of many since you may be on point with the release of the new TI chip. This projector possibly seems to be cashing in on being first to market with these specs, but lacks a lot of other accouterments that can be had at this price point, mainly being laser versus lamp.

I’m becoming increasingly hopeful for the upcoming year!


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Are there any compatible AVRs out there? I believe my Denon X3500 won't support this framerate?
Didnt even think of that, good question. 1080p240 8-bit is 15gbps so it falls within spec but the receivers dont list supported timings higher than 60hz

mainly being laser versus lamp.
At least bulb life in eco for these optoma/benq dlps is very long these days 10-15k hours
 

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To be honest I'm shocked it's not lower than 15ms at 240hz but still a very welcome improvement and what many have been waiting for (low latency XPR). Very few AVR's currently on the market will pass 240hz.

That said the only common source for 240hz at this point is a pc so with that the AVR aspect is an easy fix (it does not have to pass 240hz), you simply send one output from the video card directly to the PJ for video and a second output from the video card to the AVR for audio only (people have been doing this for years). The downside to that 'fix' is that you will want to run two HDMI cables to the PJ so you have source switching through the AVR for everything other than the pc (that's doing 240hz), then you'll just have to switch inputs on the PJ.

Price is definitely too high but I look forward to trying out the tech when it's solid, have a hunch there will be some growing pains for early adopters (as there is with most new tech).

AWESOME ! :)

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I would love a native 1440p chip that could run at 120Hz and/or 144Hz at low input lag. I think that would be a good stopgap until native 4k120Hz budget projectors with low input lag are a thing (seems like a decade away at the snail's pace projectors are progressing compared to TVs which are already there)



The input lag on these pixel shifting 4k60/1080p240 chips is better but still disappointing


at 4k60Hz the input lag is 55% worse than the theoretical best
at 1080p240Hz the input lag is 377% worse than the theoretical best



you're getting better motion performance at 240Hz but you are losing out on the other desirable half of hfr gaming. Seems like a great projector for 4k gaming, but no reason to buy this over one of the 1080p120Hz projectors with 8.3 ms input lag for hfr gaming.
 

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While I don’t disagree, for me this is ticking a lot of boxes. Mainly being able to do either 1080p at 120 or 4K at 60, while still maintaining a relatively low input lag. Yes, there are pjs with 8.3ms of lag (in 120Hz mode) but they are restricted to 1080p, & at 60Hz the input lag is 16ms. As a console gamer, I still think next gen will heavily revolve on reaching 4K @ 60 for most games. To that end, this is better (on paper) than the high input lag XPR turds available now. We’ll just have to wait and see how it performs.

I’d rather have the pj that can do 4K 60 at 25ms, with the option to switch to 1080p 120 at 18.2ms. For me that’s a decent upgrade so long as contrast is decent. I will say it’s a hard sell at anywhere near $1500 though.
 

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I wonder how a input lag of 25.8ms was achieved with 4k 60Hz sources? Is this a new DMD chip? @sage11x was this what you were alluding to?
Yes.

Question remains whether this performance comes at a cost or is 'free'. Still, the prospect of low latency, affordable 4K projection is so tantalizing.
 

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After many years of only owning and thinking that TVs is the way to go, I've recently become interested in getting a projector. As I'm an avid gamer and a movie enthusiast, this looks like a pretty sweet deal. I did recently try out the BenQ ht2150st(w1210st here), and I must say that it was great, apart from missing some key features. 4k and hdr to be precise. I would like for my eventual purchase to be reasonably future proof, especially considering that the ps5 is just around the corner. I did also consider getting the ht3550 at one point, but was unsure of the impact such a high input lag/latency would do for my enjoyment of games. I see that this projector already has launched in Australia, does anyone know how long it usually takes for products like this to be sold in Europe? I'm guessing Europe might be the last market where projectors are launched, considering market size?
 

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Yes.

Question remains whether this performance comes at a cost or is 'free'. Still, the prospect of low latency, affordable 4K projection is so tantalizing.
According to @CHiQLASER in the Chiq B5U thread they were able to achieve around 50ms by using better chips/processor than most UST's. They are using the DLP470TP.
 
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