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Hi Guys,

I'm getting ready to start the build. I'd like to confirm the order of installation (it may be backwards for traditional construction for drywall)

1) Framing
2) Plumbing
3) Electrical
4) ducting
5) Lighting
6) flooring
7) Ceiling
8) wall-drywall

Thanks,
JOe K.
 

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If by flooring you mean finished flooring, I would do that last.
 
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If by flooring you mean finished flooring, I would do that last.
yeah. Okay, I can do that easy-peasy. The rest looks in order?
 

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yeah. Okay, I can do that easy-peasy. The rest looks in order?
Ductwork (HVAC) before electrical. The order is "least flexible in routing to most flexible". Plumbing goes first because of gravity. Ductwork is next because of the size requirements. Electrical can sneak around anything...
 

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This is what I got so far.

This makes sense:

1) Plumbing
2) Framing
3) ducting
4) Electrical
5) Ceiling
6) Lighting
7) wall-drywall
8) flooring

Thanks,
Joe
 

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step 0-plan

I cant tell you how many times guys show up here after a couple weekends framing asking for advice on sound proofing, running electrical Duct work etc, and the the framing is just plain wrong to achieve their objectives so let's see your plan
 

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Make sure you have a layout plan either on computer software or paper.
Get your permits (or don't...I know some don't get them)
Frame
Electrical / HVAC / Plumbing
Insulation
Drywall

If you're soundproofing, make sure you figure it out before you start framing.
 

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Great point. I'll attach the layout and materials/labor list I'm using for a 0% interest CDA loan from my City (that's where this materials list came from).

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 [B]The Project:  [/B]
  [B]Flooring ($3150)[/B]
  [U]Notes[/U]
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Vapor block is old tile, and 4” of existing concrete slab over the original pour 
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Cork flooring will provide a soft and warm flooring
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Careful attention is made to ensure flooring would stay dry
  o   Landscape Grading and roof overhang is conducive to no moisture issues
  o   No moisture issues have taken place in the time we’ve lived here
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Flooring in storage room will be carpet which has not been quoted but will be less expensive than cork
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Bathroom flooring has yet to be determined, most likely tile
  [U]Materials[/U]
  $385 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/flooring/laminate-flooring/laminate-installation-maintenance/c-6607.htm?queryType=storeItems&vendorNameDisplay_facet=Healthier+Choice"]Sound solution underlayment[/URL] $55 per 100 sq ft
  $300 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/panel-products/underlayment-panels/plastic-underlayment/7-3-x-65-6-platon-flooring-protector/p-1351809.htm"]Playton Underlayment: [/URL] $150 per 475 sq ft x 2 
  $1350 [URL="https://www.menards.com/main/p-2256264.htm"]Cork Flooring[/URL]  $3.5 per sq ft 
  $??  Low grade carpet for storage room
  [U]Labor[/U]
  $600 
  [B]Walls/Framing ($3500)[/B]
  [U]Notes:[/U]
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Foam board insulation and furring strips will be used against foundation walls as opposed to a standard stud-wall.  
  o   This will increase horizontal living space, 
  o   Provide vapor permeable barrier with no risk of mold nor stagnation
   
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Given this is (below grade) livable space I’d like to put an emphasis on sound proofing so competing living areas (TV’s, schedules, etc...) do not compete with each 
  o   Double drywall and acoustical caulk will be used on the exterior wall leading toward the upstairs to reduce noise
   
  [U]Materials[/U]
  $330 [URL="http://www.soundproofingcompany.com/soundproofing-products/soundproofing-clips/pac-rsic-1/"]RSIC-1 Sound Clips[/URL] $5.50 per clip x 60 clips
  $90 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/metal-framing/7-8-x-12-furring-channel-25-ga/p-1707664.htm"]Hat Channels[/URL] $4.5 per 12’ channel x 20 channels
  $400 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/p-2354212-c-5779.htm"]Foam board insulation for foundation walls[/URL] $20 x board 20
  $400 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/drywall/panels/5-8-x-4-x-8-type-x-fire-rated-drywall/p-1934614-c-5656.htm"]Fire-Rated Drywall[/URL] $8 per board x 50
  $108 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/drywall/panels/5-8-x-4-x-8-moisture-resistant-type-x-drywall/p-1934611-c-5656.htm"]Moisture Resistant drywall[/URL] $12 per board x 9
  $300 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/drywall/joint-compound/green-glue-noiseproofing-compound-28-oz/p-1725463-c-13060.htm"]Noise proofing compound[/URL] $15 x 20
  $300 Consumables/Lumber 2x4, furring strips/Caulk/Foundation Screws, construction adhesive
  [U]Labor[/U]
  $1500 
  [B]Ceiling/Insulation/Lighting ($2650)[/B]
  [U]Notes[/U]
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Have hat channels perpendicular with joists
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Same care will be taken for soundproofing
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Double drywall on the lid for the living area, insulated ducting independent of upstairs, additional insulation, building sound boxes for can lights 
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Fiberglass in the rim joists will be replaced with R-20 foam board and foam.  This will prevent mold/musty smell as well as increase R value.
  o   Will also work well with cold air returns in [I]joists in conjunctions with the drywall on channels[/I] as well as ones on the floor air returns
  [U]Materials[/U]
  $232 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/drywall/panels/5-8-x-4-x-8-type-x-fire-rated-drywall/p-1934614-c-5656.htm"]Fire-Rated Drywall[/URL] $8 per board x 29
  $36 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/drywall/panels/5-8-x-4-x-8-moisture-resistant-type-x-drywall/p-1934611-c-5656.htm"]Moisture Resistant drywall[/URL] $12 per board x 3
  $440 [URL="http://www.homedepot.com/p/Roxul-Safe-n-Sound-3-in-x-15-1-4-in-x-47-in-Soundproofing-Stone-Wool-Insulation-12-Roll-RXSS31525/202531875"]Rockwool fire-rated/Sound insulation[/URL] $44 per roll 60 sq ft x 10
  $??  Can lights (boxes used from scrap rigid foam-board)
  $330 [URL="http://www.soundproofingcompany.com/soundproofing-products/soundproofing-clips/pac-rsic-1/"]RSIC-1 Sound Clips[/URL] $5.50 per clip x 60 clips
  $81 [URL="http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/metal-framing/7-8-x-12-furring-channel-25-ga/p-1707664.htm"]Hat Channels[/URL] $4.5 per 12’ channel x 18 channels
  [U]Labor[/U]
  $1500 T&A Construction – Todd Schultz
   
  [B]HVAC ($700) [/B]
  [U]Notes[/U]
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Add two cold air returns within joists.  That will pull air from the space between the “stud wall” and drywall (created by the hat channels)
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Add two cold air returns on the floor of the main room and one in the storage room
  [FONT=Calibri]-          [/FONT]Adding 1 register in the bathroom, 1 in the storage room, 2 in the main room
  o   The duct will be pulled tight and insulated for efficiency. Hard pipe would be better but sound dampening issues exist and on short runs the savings are negligible.
   
  [U]Materials[/U]
  $300 6” flex duct, Rectangle to round metal boots, Round dampening registers, Misc metal for new cold air returns
  [U]Labor[/U]
  $400 
  [B]Plumbing rough-in plus tub/fixtures ($4000)[/B]
  [U]Notes:[/U]
  The goal is to have a rough-in and bath tub installed.  The rest can be installed later  
  [U] [/U]
  [U]Bid[/U]
  [U]Materials[/U]
  $800 Bathtub and fixture
  Vanity (post rough-in)
  Toilet (post rough-in)
   
   
  [B]Electrical (TBD)[/B]
  [U]Bid[/U]
  $200 (I know the guy)
  [U]Materials[/U]
  Bath fan
  2 Dimmer switches for main room (2 separate lines)
 

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So some of the sound proofing techniques will be using are:

- RSIC-1 with Hat Channels for all of the walls in the main room (24OC)
* double drywall and green glue for interior center wall
- RSIC-1 with Hat Channels and double drywall for the ceiling with Denim or rockwool insulation (I don't want to work with fiberglass)
* hat channels will run perpendicular to joists and be 24OC to preserve height (I have a picture about how that is done from a thread on here)
- I'll be making boxes for the can lights
- R8 insulated flex ducts on their own runs for the venting (maybe something in the registers)
- Exterior wall will be rigid foam board fastened to foundation and have 1x3 furrings as opposed to stud wall
- Still figuring out the door situation.
- Will be coating the outlets with with fireproof/sound dampening coating
- will be using GG on the seals of the drywall on channels
- Cork floor with 2 sub-floors (mainly for moisture control and warmth)
 

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Is there a cheat sheet/guide/To do list/checklist for HT planning and building out there??? I know there is lot of information in these forums but most is too disorganized and a bit overwhelming for a noob like me.
 

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My recommendation is plan plan plan.and when you think your done do more planning it helps. I have always been a get it done kinda of guy. figure it out as you go. 90% of this worked on my build. With that said that 10% on lack of planning ended up costing time. My build is coming to completion in the next month looking back I wish I would of done more planning. Don't get me wrong you have to have the get it done attitude but planning goes a long way. Should I move my next build I will hire someone to help with the planning stages this will greatly decrease the figuring out as you go and headaches that it can bring up.

My general plan was done well but having things down to the inch in parts of the build would of greatly helped.
 

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My recommendation is plan plan plan.and when you think your done do more planning it helps
I'd say genofive has understated the importance of planning..:)
 

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On the posted floor plan where is the theater?
It's called Main Room.

The reason is, going for the loan I'm trying to say this is a "family room", given the scope of their loan plan. But yes, this will be a theater.
 
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