OT: Why does NERO reencode?

i don't know why they try to reencode, but i think the long time consensus was that the best bet was Ulead DVD Movie Factory 2. I gave in a bought it and indeed it does not reencode. Version 2 is discontinued now in favor of v3, but I didn't upgrade so i don't know if v3 also does not reencode.

Nero takes a long time to re-encode, and it re-encodes everything.


I use Womble Video Wizard to edit and then neoDVDPlus to author. They do their re-encoding in a few minutes, not tens of minutes or hours.


Bye.

Womble is pretty good and has been a long time favorite for converting replay's mpegs.


Much as I admire Nero as a Burning app I have no use at all for all the bundled stuff that comes with it. I'm not about to turn encoding over to Nero when there's TMPGENc, Canopus, MainConcept and just a ton of better alternatives out there.


ULEAD has some good products and I've been impressed with Pinnacle Studio 9--for that sort of mid-range authoring app. Womble also has their new MPEG Video Wizard 200X but I have to admit I still find the old Womble MPEG-VRC pretty hard to beat for cleaning up Replay's shortcomings.

if your trying to put mpegs on a dvd nero will re-encode , but if your burning a video_ts folder with vobs in it ( this is what you should be getting out of any decent dvd editing package ) then i will not re-encode.


personaly i use another package to create my dvd then i use nero to burn , creating a dvd dir structure allows me to fully test it in the dvd player before i burn it , this allows me to fix errors before they end up on a disk.

I am currently using Nero VisionExpress to author and burn and am wondering about this whole encoding (or reencoding) thing. Apart from the time issues (it adds time to the process), does reencoding do anything to the video? Is my video quality getting worse? Is it getting better? I know Nero VE gives you options on the encoding, are some better than others?


TIA for all of the responses.


Ed

when it comes to mpeg encoders , nero's is very low on the list , tempg and others ( cce ) are 100's times better .. of course it also depends on what your watching.


med qual from a replay would be better than the best nero can do , and after womble fixes the GOP's , the mpeg from replay can go directly onto dvd , no encodeing needed, just need to convert the mpegs into vobs , and if you want a direct video on dvd with no menus etc , their are a ton of shareware/freeware stuff out their to do that.

check out http://www.doom9.org/ and http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...d+into+and+vob for more information than you will ever use about making dvd's

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BUT who can afford Canopus Procoder 2 at 500.00? It may be good, but it still amazes me how an application that is only 14 MBs can cost SO MUCH

I didn't read the other responses, but to answer the question...


because NERO sucks as a authoring package. It's only "OK" as a burning app...

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Well yes, If MS continues to have it's way we should be buying our bloatwareâ„¢ by the tonage....


I do like Canopus--it's a good Encoder for Dumbies kinda App but over the long haul I generally use TMPGENc and Virtualdup (when I'm frameserving) and those guys are both very reasonably priced.


I, of course, won't mention filesharing here, for fear being percieved as NOT PC, but I AM a firm believer in getting a very good "preview" of any App before shelling out several hundred dollars for it. If I like it and use it, I buy it.

Nero doesn't seem like it re-encodes to me. I've taken several 1.5 - 2hr Replay TV files, edited them with womble then burn with Nero Vision Express.


It goes through the "transcoding" step, but it transcodes the 1.5 hour video in 2-5 minutes, so I'm sure it's not actually transcoding, it's just analyzing or something.


I don't do any editing in NVE.

i wish they would combine or automate nero vision and nero recode...have an option so that if the output of nero vision is bigger than the disc, then recode it down.