[tivoboy]

I picked one of these up over the weekend, and would love to get some feedback from other users about settings that work well for SD material, preferably for DTV SD?


Using composite for now, will move to componant when HD Tivo gets hooked up.


thanks

 

[calvin940]

I picked one of those up as well. I am not saying that these are my final settings, but I like


0 - Tint

0 - hue?

-19 Picture

-8 - Brightness

-23 - Detail


and all that filter processing I have off (DYnamic gamma, dynamic colour, etc etc)


Again, the picture is probably darker then normal, but I would rather decent blacks than super whites.


I have a more extreme setting as well on one of the other configurations:


0

0

-21

-6

-26


I believe


Still will all those other extra doo-dads off. How do you like yours? I see some posturization/banding from my COAX DTV signal, but not nearly as much as the Akai I had bought temporarily. I noticed even less on DVDs. Games look excellent on that plasma.


Edit: Oh yeah, and I meant to ask you your settings and whether you are happy with them.

 

[tivoboy]

I'll post the setting soon, the TV is actually in Chicago and now I am in San Francisco. CA


I should have written down what I had. The DTV signals looked pretty good actually,



off topic: Funny that I am listed as a senior member with 366 posts, and you are listed as a FUN member with 365 posts.


Maybe, will your next post make you a senior member?

 

[calvin940]

Quote:

Originally posted by tivoboy I'll post the setting soon, the TV is actually in Chicago and now I am in San Francisco. CA I should have written down what I had. The DTV signals looked pretty good actually, off topic: Funny that I am listed as a senior member with 366 posts, and you are listed as a FUN member with 365 posts. Maybe, will your next post make you a senior member?

heh.. that's actually funny because I had contemplated making that last edit a new post just to tie your post count. Why you ask? because I am the fun member


Actually, I think I put "Fun Member" in my profile manully when I registered. If you don't put anything in perhaps it then auto-selects basd on post count.

 

[jcpzero]

Quote:

Originally posted by calvin940 I see some posturization/banding from my COAX DTV signal, but not nearly as much as the Akai I had bought temporarily. I noticed even less on DVDs. Games look excellent on that plasma.

I viewed the JVC at several stores last night. I noticed some posturization/banding also - a little more than the adjacent sets. Most noticable in a concert loop at BB where it is dark and stage lights, and lighting through the fog. This was a little disconcerting. You mentioned it is worst on COAX DTV - is that an HD signal?


JPCZero

 

[Swedish Chef]

The JVCs seem to have a terrible time with fog and smoke. False contouring is definitely a problem too....

 

[jcpzero]

Quote:

Originally posted by Swedish Chef The JVCs seem to have a terrible time with fog and smoke. False contouring is definitely a problem too....

There's always something to ruin the party...



JCPZero

 

[Swedish Chef]

JCP: Sorry, just being honest. I own a JVC HD plasma myself. Those issues are making me think about selling it. I see the same problem in all the JVCs on display at B&Ms.

 

[jcpzero]

Quote:

Originally posted by Swedish Chef JCP: Sorry, just being honest. I own a JVC HD plasma myself. Those issues are making me think about selling it. I see the same problem in all the JVCs on display at B&Ms.

I would rather know now than have buyers remorse. If you replace the unit with a different brand - make a post with your impressions. The JVC has so many other great qualities, but in the end PQ is extremely important. I don't have to make a decision on which model until they (JVC, Hitachi, Panasonic) hit $2K at a B&M store as that is my WAF spending limit. I will need to take a closer look at PQ issues at that time, and probably bring in some Demo DVDS to test the different sets.


JCPZero

 

[calvin940]

Quote:

Originally posted by jcpzero I viewed the JVC at several stores last night. I noticed some posturization/banding also - a little more than the adjacent sets. Most noticable in a concert loop at BB where it is dark and stage lights, and lighting through the fog. This was a little disconcerting. You mentioned it is worst on COAX DTV - is that an HD signal? JPCZero

SD signal. I have a sat (expressvu), but that's in one room. In my house a couple of years ago I had some coax run to a couple of different rooms so I can output some of my signals to other rooms via Coax (it's sat rated coax and not too long either).


I check a couple of quick DVDs and hadn't really noticed the posturization on those so thought might be just the particular signal. I will post more when I have a tried a few more pieces of DVD content.


You mention adjacent sets. Is that including Panasonic? I ready that in addition to having Panny glass, that the electronics are similar if not the same in this JVC and the panny 42" EDTV. I just bought this JVC and am testing it out. I will have the opportunity to send this packing and get the panny. Do you feel that panasonic does a better job at minimizing the banding? (this question goes out to anyone else as well if you have thoughts on the subject)

 

[jcpzero]

Quote:

Originally posted by calvin940 SD signal. I have a sat (expressvu), but that's in one room. In my house a couple of years ago I had some coax run to a couple of different rooms so I can output some of my signals to other rooms via Coax (it's sat rated coax and not too long either). I check a couple of quick DVDs and hadn't really noticed the posturization on those so thought might be just the particular signal. I will post more when I have a tried a few more pieces of DVD content. You mention adjacent sets. Is that including Panasonic? I ready that in addition to having Panny glass, that the electronics are similar if not the same in this JVC and the panny 42" EDTV. I just bought this JVC and am testing it out. I will have the opportunity to send this packing and get the panny. Do you feel that panasonic does a better job at minimizing the banding? (this question goes out to anyone else as well if you have thoughts on the subject)

I saw the JVC fog issues (same section of loop) at two differenct BB stores. Maybe part of the issue is there were hd philips and the new LG HD models on the same wall. On this clip even the Zenith looked better on the fog effects. I plan to take a closer look at the Panny and Hitachi for this issue.


JCPZero

 

[calvin940]

Quote:

Originally posted by jcpzero I saw the JVC fog issues (same section of loop) at two differenct BB stores. Maybe part of the issue is there were hd philips and the new LG HD models on the same wall. On this clip even the Zenith looked better on the fog effects. I plan to take a closer look at the Panny and Hitachi for this issue. JCPZero

I would be *most* interested to hear your observations.


Cheers

C

 

[bobaphx]

I haven't heard any more about posturization/banding on this JVC. any more to report??

Also, was this only seen on ED version or does HD version (PD42wx84)have same thing?

 

[calvin940]

I made the switch to the TH-42PA20. I compared a scene in the hulk where there were blurry gradients and I noticed that the banding showed up most on this scene. When I looked at the panny, it was less noticeable. Not gone mind you, but less of it. I also noticed other things about the picture too which made it look better to me (it's blacks were better handled by it's technology I guess).


I'll elaborate on the blacks issue. As I have posted in the past, I find plasma displays have this "sparkle" or "organic bacteria" type of behaviour. When they are attempting to match a colour or colur combination, the plasma is attempting to get some kind of general area best match and as a result, pixels are changing colour varients across a given area. when viewed (up close), you can see this behaviour quite clearly (and some plasma veterans have agreed and verified that this behaviour is native to plasmas). Having said that however, I noticed it even far away (8-12 feet). When I say I noticed it, I mean I can see it happening, but not like I see it when I stand up close. Well, the panasonic seems to have much less of this than the JVC. I have looked at the same scenes, Xbox (XBMC skin output), PS2 black screen, gray browser area, etc, etcc and can most definitely say (for me) that the picture is better, less posturization, less sparkle.


The only thing that really irked me (and if the picture quality was only slightly better I may have decided not to swap) was the fact that the panny does not support 720p. What is up with that crap? In this type of technology I see no excuse for this. Furthremore, I noticed the HD version (PX) *also* did not support 720p in the COmponent inputs (only supported it in the RGB VGA connector). That is crap.


Calvin

 

[bobaphx]

So, in general, even through the JVC and Panasonic have similair glass, etc. the guys at Panasonic still seem to do it better somehow...

Too bad as this JVC was definately a TV I was interested in (there has never seemed to be much talk about it on this forum).

I agree that the no support for 720p seems odd, especially on the HD model.

I wonder if they will change that in the new models based on gen7 glass... whenever that happens.

 

[tivoboy]

no question about it, don't even compare

tha panny is the better of the two.