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For gaming losing smooth gradation definitely is an issue. On XF90 there's visible banding on games without SG enabled, and since XG95 and XH95 aren't any better on native banding it's safe to assume XH90 wont be any better either.
Haven't tested SDR games but the HDR games I tested on PS4 Pro and PC showed no banding.
 

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I’ve read about all panels etc, think Sony have some sort of “wide viewing option” but is this on the 65” XH90? (Think the XH900H is the same as the U.K. XH90?)

It’s just I don’t want the TV to be bad at viewing angles as my setup some people will not be straight on, maybe 30° angle?
 

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I’ve tried each cable and setting in all four ports, but same exact results for all.

The only potential differences I can think of is some other nVidia setting or that my computer hasn’t received the Windows 10 May 2020 update.
This is a mystery, since I have a 1080Ti with latest drivers and Win 10 May update but there's no way to get 1440p 120Hz.
I have tried with different HDMI 2.1 cables and CRU on ports 3 and 4.
 

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What is the best way to connect my cable box and Marantz SR6006 receiver? The receiver can do 1080P pass through and supports ARC. I had originally connected the cable box to the receiver and then had the receiver out to HDMI 3 on the TV. I switched the setup to having the cable box go to HDMI 1 on the TV and have an HDMI cable from the ARC on TV to the ARC on the receiver. The sound setup works and I think I see a slightly cleaner picture while watching cable TV. Is connecting the cable box directly to the TV and using the ARC channel to the surround sound the way to go to get the best picture performance?
All things sound and audio considered I'd stay with the box connected directly to the TV.
 

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seemed to be able to use moviesanywhere app on tv to access my streaming library and be able to watch movies like Alita and avengers endgame in dolby vision. Have to use arc for sound. It looks awesome just sounds horrible for now. Vudu for some reason won't let me play anything past hdx for tv app not sure why.
I have the same issue in VUDU. I think that's the way their app works from what I've read. Will only let me choose HDX even when I own UHD. I also had and issue in the Google Movies (or whatever it's called). It would allow me UHD, but then when I would go to play it would just bring me back to the "home" screen for the app. Movies Anywhere seemed to work fine.
Hope they fix that. Have alot on vudu
 

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If it's like the 950H, based on looking at the inputs, the AVR would control the center channel output just like if it were a normal center channel speaker. What >I< am curious about is whether it's better than a dedicated center channel speaker. Somehow I'm skeptical. If it's an option, I'll give it the ol' college try, but I'm not expecting to ditch my center channel for speakers on the TV.
No speaker level inputs (which 950H has) so the plan to use the TV as center channel does not work.
 

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All things sound and audio considered I'd stay with the box connected directly to the TV.

I've sent the satellite input through the AVR to the TV, but would like to try it connected directly to TV.

Slightly off topic, but would need a 12 foot HDMI cable - any recommendations on a good choice?

thanks
 

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I've sent the satellite input through the AVR to the TV, but would like to try it connected directly to TV.

Slightly off topic, but would need a 12 foot HDMI cable - any recommendations on a good choice?

thanks
Anything under 20 feet is not risky if you get a 2.0b certified premium cable. Those ones, with the proper label on the packaging don't cost any more than others. You're not pushing the limits of a 2.0 cable with satellite TV but if you get the certified ones now (put a label on it) at least you'll have it around for when you need more bandwidth. I prefer Monoprice's via Amazon, wide selection of various types too (extra flex, etc.).
 

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I can't figure out why this has not worked for me. I'm using an RTX2080 with the latest drivers as well. Would you mind sharing a screen shot of your custom resolution settings? Are you having the display or the GPU do the scaling?

Best I have been able to get 1440p to work at is 90Hz. The nVidia control panel says that 120Hz is successful, but the image on screen is all scrambled. I've tried multiple certified high speed cables, plus two brands of HDMI 2.1 cables (Monoprice and Cable Matters).
How's the image quality? Have you had other 1440p120 capable sets? If yes, how does it compare?
This is a mystery, since I have a 1080Ti with latest drivers and Win 10 May update but there's no way to get 1440p 120Hz.
I have tried with different HDMI 2.1 cables and CRU on ports 3 and 4.
Hmm are you using HDMI 4?


I get 1440p/120/HDR.
My card is a older 1080ti.

At the risk of eating crow I'd like to re-visit this. Yes I can get it to display and games play at 120Hz, but there is clearly some sort of issue. I tested on HDMI4.

After further experimentation, 100/110 do not work for me. They display a scrambled screen.

Even though it says I'm using 4:4:4 it looks like 4:2:0, definitely not even 4:2:2. It looks worse than [email protected] or [email protected] when using the Windows Desktop. I'm sure everyone that's worked with the different chromas understand that the difference between 4:4:4 and 4:2:0 is less visible when gaming, particularly from the era when the PS4 supported 4k with 4:2:0.

Using the Far Cry 5 benchmark for comparison, [email protected] HDR10 provides superior dynamic range, indicating that HDR is not working properly with [email protected]

I don't know have any explanation for the variation or why I'm even able to set [email protected] and others aren't.


I apologize if I mislead anyone. My TV clearly accepts the input, but it is a waste of time.


I will be purchasing an Ampere GPU so I am looking forward to HDMI 2.1 support.
 

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How does this tv compare to the x900f?
I have both and the 900f is a great tv. The 900h gets the slight edge in picture quality and is future proofed with hdmi 2.1, ATSC 3.0, etc. HDR and Dolby Vision are a huge improvment on the 900h. Another thing to consider is the 900f probably wont be receiving any more updates and runs an older, slower version of Android.
 

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I’ve read about all panels etc, think Sony have some sort of “wide viewing option” but is this on the 65” XH90? (Think the XH900H is the same as the U.K. XH90?)

It’s just I don’t want the TV to be bad at viewing angles as my setup some people will not be straight on, maybe 30° angle?
No xwide angle filter on the X900H.
 

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Haven’t posted anything in my x900h. As some of you know from previous posts, I was one of the early orders from Value Electronics. Let me say that Robert and Wendy are absolutely delightful to work with. Nicest people around and incredibly knowledgeable. After waiting some time for stock to get allocated, my tv was shipped. Was supposed to be delivered last Monday. I received a call from CEVA Logistics that they lost my tv. After a couple days and with Roberts help, they were able to find it. Received the set Friday. Found the box was opened, straps were removed. Took it out of the box and turned it on.

Picture is ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE.







....Now look at the attached pic and you’ll see why. 😝😝😝. Tv was completely damaged. Value Electronics immediately ordered up a new one for me and started the claim process on this one.

I will have this tv one day!!!!
 

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All things sound and audio considered I'd stay with the box connected directly to the TV.
Thanks for the reply. I swear it does look better than going thru the receiver but you know how that goes. In any case, will see if this has anything to do with the motion and soap opera effect that seems to show up out of nowhere when I turn on the TV or switch from an app to TV. Doesn't do it all the time, chatted with Sony and they were no help.
 

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No xwide angle filter on the X900H.

Heard good and bad about this filter. So without it what’s the angle that’s it’s ok at? I know LG TV’s are better for viewing angles, but worse for blacks/contrast.

Bit of the person in my house so sitting not directly in front of the TV, off to the side, and the picture is washed out then what’s the point?

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Thanks for the reply. I swear it does look better than going thru the receiver but you know how that goes. In any case, will see if this has anything to do with the motion and soap opera effect that seems to show up out of nowhere when I turn on the TV or switch from an app to TV. Doesn't do it all the time, chatted with Sony and they were no help.
I don't own a 900H, I'm here to investigate alternates to OLED. Does this Sony have it such that each input type gets it's own settings: SDR, HDR, DV, so you have to save a separate setup for each of those plus any game vs. movie modes, such as on an LG I have one setup for gaming in HDR and another for watching movies in HDR.
This might provide some insight:
 

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No xwide angle filter on the X900H.

Heard good and bad about this filter. So without it what’s the angle that’s it’s ok at? I know LG TV’s are better for viewing angles, but worse for blacks/contrast.

Bit of the person in my house so sitting not directly in front of the TV, off to the side, and the picture is washed out then what’s the point?

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Thanks for the reply. I swear it does look better than going thru the receiver but you know how that goes. In any case, will see if this has anything to do with the motion and soap opera effect that seems to show up out of nowhere when I turn on the TV or switch from an app to TV. Doesn't do it all the time, chatted with Sony and they were no help.
I don't own a 900H, I'm here to investigate alternates to OLED. Does this Sony have it such that each input type gets it's own settings: SDR, HDR, DV, so you have to save a separate setup for each of those plus any game vs. movie modes, such as on an LG I have one setup for gaming in HDR and another for watching movies in HDR.
This might provide some insight:
Yes it does
 

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Motion Flow settings

Make sure motion is set to custom and smoothness at min and clearness to 2. See how that looks. This is my preferred settings and I'm happy with it.
Thanks! I've just applied your settings to every app and input. Actually, I chose Clearness 1, to preserve more brightness.
Your tip is of the three most useful I've read in the X900H forum. And I've read every post.
 
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No xwide angle filter on the X900H.

Heard good and bad about this filter. So without it what’s the angle that’s it’s ok at? I know LG TV’s are better for viewing angles, but worse for blacks/contrast.

Some of the people in my house sit not directly in front of the TV, off to the side, and if the picture is washed out then what’s the point?

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Heard good and bad about this filter. So without it what’s the angle that’s it’s ok at? I know LG TV’s are better for viewing angles, but worse for blacks/contrast.

Bit of the person in my house so sitting not directly in front of the TV, off to the side, and the picture is washed out then what’s the point?

Thanks
Several pages back there are images that try to show the effect at different viewing angles. I don't own this tv yet so I can't speak to that directly, and there are no reviews out yet that have actually gone to the effort of determining when that viewing angle can become significantly less. Personally though, if all of my seating options were off angle to the tv, I would not buy this set, especially not if it were also my main tv. IPS tvs, like the LGs you speak to, do have better viewing angles and worse blacks/contrast. So, since IPS is unacceptable for me, I would consider either the 950H or an OLED specifically a Sony too since I appreciate this year's model more than the LG (see youtube channel hdtvtest for the reviews and comparison by Vincent Taoh). Good luck with your hunt.
 
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