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The mold manufacturer is continuing their efforts to deliver quality parts. Their program manager is obviously trying to put things back on track, but he has still to provide a detailed program plan of when things are going to get done. I am anticipating a full set of parts sometime (?) in the near future. However, due to the past I'll be pleasantly surprised if they meet a minimum quality level. It is definitely possible if they put in the necessary effort.


Meanwhile, the parallel design has been completed and is being programmed into the CNC machines to manufacturer Aluminum parts. Realistically, it will probably require a week of testing and tweaking to make sure the programs and operations are setup correctly before they go into production. However, there is a dedicated machine available for the project, so it's not as much a scheduling issue as it is just doing the work. Once the parts are fabricated they then have two finishing operations before they go to product assembly. In parallel, the alternate design requires difference glass components. However, even if our optics vendor is slow on this, I have quite a bit of raw material in hand to get going with a local operation. Consequently, the Aluminium parts are still the key. I'm still guessing that this alternative approach will win against the plastic approach, although the race is definitely still on.


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Thanks for the update, Shawn.


The more I think about it, the happier I am that Shawn and Cygnus are taking the time to make sure the best product possible, ships. Personally, I don't care that much about the cosmetic aspects, but build quality is critical. I'm glad that Shawn has set a standard that the manufacturers have to live up to.
 

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How many, not yet paid customers are interested?

Suppose the lens will be for sale in the beginning of september, I would be interested, but how many more? 14? 22? 80?


What would be the price for a power buy and how much people as a minimum must be signed in?
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Shawn:

In a prior life, I had a few occasions to work with plastic injection molders -- mostly creating wall thermostat cases -- generally smaller units than the panamorph, I expect. To keep the story short, things never never developed smoothly. Even with experienced diemakers, it was one thing after another before the parts were dimensionally correct, snapped together properly, etc. And only then, finally, they went back to have the "finish" applied. I decided that injection mold design was about 27% science -- the rest art and prayer. I'm not in the least surprised with the time frames you've encountered. In fact, I'd say you're right on schedule. It takes enormous futzing with chases, shrinkage, etc., till the result is right. The bigger the part, the longer it took.


Your guess that the machined aluminum will win the race is probably right. And unless your expecting to build thousands of these things, it's maybe the best way to go, period.
 

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Shawn than you also for the continuos updates.

Will the machined aluminium panamorph be offered to the original buyers or at least given the choice? I personally prefer the sounds of a machined housing but others may desire the plastic injected version. Also and this has been asked but I cannot remember seeing an answer, will Cygnus be contacting those on the pre-orders regarding current mailing addresses etc, and what of insurance? Given the recent thread on FedEx's rather shifty insurance practices I am concerned as that is what I was billed for initially. After all my Panamorph will be winging it half way around the globe. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/eek.gif
 

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One thing's for sure, with all the anticipation this thing's brought forth during all this delay, it has also created pretty high expectations! This baby is doomed at start to perform with the precision of a rocket indeed. And that can only mean good.


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Shawn,

Sounds like your making progress, just to second JohnMP's sentiments, I will be moving house in one week, I was hoping to have a Panamorph by now but that obviously isn't going to happen so I will contact you when I have my new address. I this causes a problem then let me know.
 

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Same here, when I ordered my panamorph I was just moving out of Mom and Dad's to go to college.


Now I'm moving into the Sandy Shore Retirement village next week, so I need to update my address...


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Well another month has come and gone and it is time for another update. Hope to hear from Shawn soon and this time I am expecting one of the two methods to be ready for prime time.
 

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...one of the two methods to be ready for prime time.
That may be why we haven't heard from him yet this week. Shawn is pretty regular... No, let me rephrase that, Shawn provides us regular updates.



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Well, our baby is due May 15th....I was hoping to finish off the home

theater before the grand event. At this point though....


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I know this is a really basic queston but I'll ask it anyway:


How do I tell whether a panamorphic or anamorphic lens will work better for me?


Screen size: 16X9 Grayhawk ordering either 118, 108 or 96 inch wide


Projector approximately 18 ft to screen


JVC G11 with plans to build htpc with Radeon card


Seating area 11 ft to screen


Will be watching DVDs, hdtv and some 4X3 broadcast
 

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ISCO II = same image height, 33% wider image.


ISCO II = shorter throw


Panamorph = same image width, 25% shorter image height.


Panamorph = longer throw


Here's an example. Let's say you have the projector bolted to the ceiling. Let's say you throw an image that is 8'x6' from your projector. With the ISCO II in front of the projector, you will have an image that is 10.64' x6' (1.33 x 8' = 10.64'). With the Panamorph, the image will be 8'x4.5' (6' x .75 = 4.5').


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If I have an overkill throw, so I use my zoom on the projector to make the image smaller to fit the screen, but still zoom to spare, then it doe not really matter which lense you take does it?


Then the choice is which lens has the best cost to quality ratio?


and now it is too early to tell?

Ky


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Larry, I see that you have recently moved. Did you get the "shipment" from Shawn yet?



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Hi Man E,

Nope. I am still waiting for the fabled return of "El Pineapple Face". Supposedly, he will be the celebrity endorser for the lens, or as he calls it: "Supreme-Maximum Panamorphic Lens".
 
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