[EyesofEldrad]

Hi, just joined the forum as I'm more of a reader than a writer

I just bought a used Panny DMRE100HGCS as an upgrade from my old DMR-ES10 (I wanted a nice size hard drive). The HDD is working fine but it wont read any of my DVD-RAMs that I recorded on the previous machine. It does read shop bought ones though.


I've read with interest the many posts about cleaning the spindle hub when drives start playing up. In fact I've done the procedure on my ES10 several times and it made it work like new! Thing is I've just popped the case off the E100H and its a maze of electronics! I can't seem to fathom how to access the inside of the DVD drive as it appears to be encased inside a metal box. My old one was just 4 screws and it was done.


I've searched and searched but cannot find any ref on the forum to this style of drive.


Does any have any experience in taking the lid off this model or advise how to proceed? I'm convinced if I can get to it, a good old clean will do the trick, but how to get there is worrying me...


Any help appreciated, thanks.

 

[Rammitinski]

Eldrad must live!

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[EyesofEldrad]

LOL

Oops, my cover is blown!

 

[Kelson]

One of my favorite episodes. I was sorry to see Sarah-Jane go, but Leela was a nice replacement. From her cameos in the new Dr. Who, Sarah-Jane has aged well.

 

[Rammitinski]



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Originally Posted by Kelson /forum/post/17743455


...Leela was a nice replacement.

Absolutely.


Sarah Jane was my favorite for sure, but I would even go so far as to say that the Leela episodes were the absolute apex of the show's run. ("The Quest is the Quest".

)


When they brought in a new production and writing staff for the season starting with the Romana I episodes, Baker was so unhappy with everything that he had to be drunk on his arse to get through it (and he will be the first to admit that).


Anyway - sorry I don't have an answer for the OP's orignal problem. Maybe someone else does?

 

[Church AV Guy]

I unfortunately have no experience wiuth the E100 either, so I have no no comment there.


On the other hand, I have to say that Baker had to have been happy during the Romana II series, since he did marry the actress playing her. (Of course, now she is married to Dawkins, who is a characature of himself, if that's possible.)


I agree that the Leela sequence was excellent. I especially liked some of the dialog between her and the Doctor. There was some real respect and then some humor there. "You blew them all up." "Yes." "But that was *MY* idea." "Well, then you should be pleased!"

 

[DigaDo]



Quote:
Originally Posted by EyesofEldrad /forum/post/17741121


I've just popped the case off the E100H and its a maze of electronics! I can't seem to fathom how to access the inside of the DVD drive as it appears to be encased inside a metal box. My old one was just 4 screws and it was done.


Does any have any experience in taking the lid off this model or advise how to proceed? I'm convinced if I can get to it, a good old clean will do the trick, but how to get there is worrying me...


Any help appreciated, thanks.

I have no experience with the DVD Drive you've described. My experience is limited to the older design black plastic DVD Drives used through the 2005 model year, see the first photo, and metal case DVD Drives beginning with the 2006 model year through the current models, see the second photo.


If you have a digital camera might you post some photos of the unusual DVD Drive in your E100H? Draft the post as usual then go down to Manage Attachments. Then follow the prompts.

 

[Rammitinski]



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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy /forum/post/17745394


On the other hand, I have to say that Baker had to have been happy during the Romana II series, since he did marry the actress playing her.

Happier, maybe - with his private life, anyway.


For a short time, possibly - he was only married to her for 16 months, so it doesn't exactly sound like a marriage made in heaven.


He definitely wasn't any happier with the show, though - he's stated that many times over in interviews. He hated a lot of things about doing it and was constantly arguing with the producers and writers about things during the whole period starting with Romana I.


I guess there were a lot of complaints that the show's violence was "scaring kids" too much. I think the way they started making it more "kid-friendly" from that point on had a lot to do with it.


In the "new" series, though, all that lovey-dovey stuff and blatant, physical affection going on between the Doctor and his assistants kind of kills things for me. That just goes against a lot of what the old series was really all about. I also don't care for the fact that every darned episode is based on Earth.

 

[Rammitinski]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Church AV Guy /forum/post/17745394


I agree that the Leela sequence was excellent. I especially liked some of the dialog between her and the Doctor. There was some real respect and then some humor there. "You blew them all up." "Yes." "But that was *MY* idea." "Well, then you should be pleased!"

You remember that he barked at her at least once every episode, "Put that thing away!"


(Talking about her knife, of course. He was always getting on her about her "savage" ways.)


Definitely the dynamics were at there most interesting in that relationship.

 

[EyesofEldrad]

Ha! I seem to have unleased a horde of Who fans. Nice to know I'm not the only one....


DigaDo, I thought some pics might be in order so have attached some - I hope I've done it right - (thanks for the pointers, I didnt have a clue how to do this otherwise)


1st photo is of the top of the entire inside arrangement.

2nd and 3rd are closer of the mounting screws on each side. There are some other screws lower down but not sure if they are relevant yet...

4th photo is the front of the drive (I've removed the front panel)


You can just make out that the drive itself is inside this metal box, bit like mounting a drive in a PC case. Its weird as my old one was just like the 1st photo in DigaDo's post. I dont mind undoing some screws, but which ones? Also am a bit concerned about those flimsy looking black strips across the top.

Thanks again for continued input (on Who or Dvd topic).

 

[EyesofEldrad]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammitinski /forum/post/17745731



In the "new" series, though, all that lovey-dovey stuff and blatant, physical affection going on between the Doctor and his assistants kind of kills things for me. That just goes against a lot of what the old series was really all about.

Same here. Took me a while at first to get used to the super fast pace of the new series. Watching both series side by side, the old series is snail paced in comparison but I still like it, time to 'breathe' and take it all in. I can accept that they've made these changes for the so called mtv generation of kids who can only watch for 20 seconds before getting bored but yes the whole love interest thing is jarring. Even when they brought back Sarah Jane it was heavily implied that they had been more than just friends and that sort of tarnishes it for me.


I also hate this whole business of seeing the assisitants families. I know its supposed to be fleshing out the characters to make them seem more three dimensional but its a little too much for me to stomach sometimes. Nothing is perfect though I guess, so I'll settle for what we do get.


Now if I could just record it onto my Panny DVD that would be bliss!

 

[DigaDo]



Quote:
Originally Posted by EyesofEldrad /forum/post/17746206


DigaDo, I thought some pics might be in order so have attached some - I hope I've done it right - (thanks for the pointers, I didnt have a clue how to do this otherwise)


1st photo is of the top of the entire inside arrangement.

2nd and 3rd are closer of the mounting screws on each side. There are some other screws lower down but not sure if they are relevant yet...

4th photo is the front of the drive (I've removed the front panel)


You can just make out that the drive itself is inside this metal box, bit like mounting a drive in a PC case. Its weird as my old one was just like the 1st photo in DigaDo's post. I dont mind undoing some screws, but which ones? Also am a bit concerned about those flimsy looking black strips across the top.

Thanks again for continued input (on Who or Dvd topic).

Yes, you did it right. I see that you found out how to load the first three photos and then return to add more. There is a limit to five attachments per post.


The black strips across the top may be ribbon type data cables to/from the hard drive and DVD Drive. They do look flimsy so take care when working with or around them.


I'm just on my way out the door so I'll study your photos later. (That doesn't mean that I'll come up with the answer.) I will hazard these guesses--it has something to do with the screws, or, there may be some type of interlock that allows the drive to be slid out of the surrounding structure.

 

[DigaDo]

EyesofEldrad,


Your fourth photo tends to support the notion of an "interlock" allowing the DVD Drive to slide forward out of the surrounding structure. Notice that the front lower corner braces are cut back so there would be no restrictions as the drive moves forward. Perhaps there is some release mechnism, lever or pin at the rear or elsewhere. Do you have a low angle photo showing the rear of the drive?


The ribbon cables may have different connection methods; some might have reinforced tabs near their ends to facilitate insertion into receptacles, as seen in the first photo; some might be hard-wired, as seen in the second photo; and some receptacles might have a clamping/releasing device, as shown in the third and fourth photos.

 

[Kelson]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammitinski /forum/post/17745731


In the "new" series, though, all that lovey-dovey stuff and blatant, physical affection going on between the Doctor and his assistants kind of kills things for me. That just goes against a lot of what the old series was really all about. I also don't care for the fact that every darned episode is based on Earth.

I want Rose back.

 

[Westly-C]

^^Rose stay home!

Guess it'll take the sonic screwdriver to pop the lid on the E100's dvd case...

 

[DigaDo]



Quote:
Originally Posted by EyesofEldrad /forum/post/17741121


I just bought a used Panny DMRE100HGCS as an upgrade from my old DMR-ES10 (I wanted a nice size hard drive). The HDD is working fine but it wont read any of my DVD-RAMs that I recorded on the previous machine. It does read shop bought ones though.

There may be some problems with a DMR-E100H attempting to read DVD-RAM discs recorded on a DMR-ES10. This standard disclaimer is found on page 10 of the DMR-E100H Operating Instructions:

"DVD-RAM recorded on this unit may not be compatible with

other DVD players, including some Panasonic players. Consult

the manual for the player to determine compatibility with

these DVD-RAM discs."


I didn't find this disclaimer in the DMR-ES10 Operating Instructions--but I didn't use the search function--so this language, or some variation, may also be found in that manual.


The DMR-E100H dates back to 2003, the copyright year of the Operating Instructions, so it is limited to use with DVD-RAM and DVD-R media.


The Panasonic Support website has a firmware update that may improve compatibility with 8x and 16x media:

http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-e...MR-E100HS.D#ts


The DMR-E100H Operating Instructions may also be downloaded from the Panasonic Support website.

 

[EyesofEldrad]

Wow, that's interesting info. I'd just assumed that all Pannys would read each others discs and since it came without a manual I hadnt got around to downloading from the site and scouring through yet.


I've taken some more snaps of the unit (as much as possible with the rear of the unit in the way) - see attached - but do you think it might be worth putting back together and having a go with a blank disc instead of attempting to take it apart?


I dont have any new dvd-rams only ones written to on my ES10. I dont mind blanking one but if I format it on the eS10 then put it in the E100H am I right in thinking that it should find it incompatible and ask me to format? So far all its done is throw up No Read messages when I inserted a DVD-RAM. I've got some blank DVD-Rs that I can try out though.


Thanks so much DigaDo, your continued efforts really are appreciated.

 

[DigaDo]



Quote:
Originally Posted by EyesofEldrad /forum/post/17750742


Wow, that's interesting info. I'd just assumed that all Pannys would read each others discs and since it came without a manual I hadnt got around to downloading from the site and scouring through yet.


I've taken some more snaps of the unit (as much as possible with the rear of the unit in the way) - see attached - but do you think it might be worth putting back together and having a go with a blank disc instead of attempting to take it apart?


I dont have any new dvd-rams only ones written to on my ES10. I dont mind blanking one but if I format it on the eS10 then put it in the E100H am I right in thinking that it should find it incompatible and ask me to format? So far all its done is throw up No Read messages when I inserted a DVD-RAM. I've got some blank DVD-Rs that I can try out though.


Thanks so much DigaDo, your continued efforts really are appreciated.

Those photos show that removing the rear mounted printed circuit board, the power connector and the screws located at the lower left and right corners of the surround structure might be enough to allow the DVD Drive to be slid out. There might also be a secondary catch or lever at the front or that may appear as the DVD Drive is slid forward. Removal of the rear mounted printed circuit board should not disturb the ribbon cable connection(s).


Be sure to take more photos once the DVD Drive is out in the open.


Perhaps the original owner was experiencing the same difficulties that you've encountered, was unaware of the cleaning procedure and sold the E100H for those reasons. If this E100H has not had a cleaning since new it's way overdue. Once cleaned this E100H may have a new lease on life.

 

[EyesofEldrad]

Sorry to be a bit dim, but how do I remove the circuit board from the back?


Its got some movement in it but was a bit worried I might snap something!

 

[DigaDo]



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Originally Posted by EyesofEldrad /forum/post/17750940


Sorry to be a bit dim, but how do I remove the circuit board from the back?


Its got some movement in it but was a bit worried I might snap something!

It appears that the DVD Drive side of the printed circuit board has a connector along the lower edge. This is probably a proprietary connector as it does not appear wide enough to be an IDE connector. My approach would be to remove the power connector and then grasp the printed circuit board at each end of bottom section--it may be possible to grasp the connector itself--and then pull the printed circuit board/DVD Drive connector assembly out of the DVD Drive.


Avoid grasping the printed circuit board at the top and pulling rearward.