[Wolfgang S.]

Seems to be the big bang!

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/digitalcam...-required/5242

http://news.cnet.com/2300-17938_105-10009210.html

 

[W.Mayer]

i post some months back that panasonic will come with something

new and yes thats the model.


as this 3d cam have 3chip per eye i think the low light will be very good even if the chips have the same size sony and jvc have.


also 32mm in 3d its a good news.


it all sounds very promising from paper lets see.....


here a link to a germany web page.
http://www.videoaktiv.de/20110831625...6-Chipper.html


it not say much more but they guess on price 1400 to 2500 euro.

as most of the time panasonic will have arround the same price in us

+ something i expect a price in the 2500$ range.

 

[Wolfgang S.]

I told the VAD that I do not beliefe the pricing. I expect it more between 2500 and 3000 Euro maybe - but that is guessing at the moment.

 

[Frank]

Just what we need, another small IA 3D camcorder..

Will someone please make one with at least a 50mm I.A.?

 

[dwhite601]

Finally! A prosumer 3D camcorder. It even has a view finder. This could definitely be my next camcorder.

 

[Wolfgang S.]

Yes, it sounds great - the more I read, the more I like it:

http://panasonic.net/avc/camcorder/hd/z10000/

 

[Frank]

Where does it state what the interaxial distance is ???

 

[Wolfgang S.]

It was stateed int the German publications to be 42 mm.

 

[Wolfgang S.]

You find it also here:

http://panasonic.net/avc/camcorder/h.../feature1.html


"3D Macor Cluse-ups to 45cm


The lens width of the right and left lenses forms a 42mm steroscopic structure..."


beside the picture with the flower!

 

[Wolfgang S.]

Press release

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...02011022350241

 

[W.Mayer]

i will order the us version with 60 hz as soon as i can get one.


as i have the sony and the jvc 3d cam i hope that this new panasonic have


-the low light quality the sony have or better

-the resolution the jvc have when rec. in good light condition

-the same or even a better 3d display than the sony


the color will be for sure better and the wider optic is a big plus for me as well.


if the panasonic delivers this all i have a sony and a jvc 3d cam little used for sale for a good price.

 

[Wolfgang S.]

Well, given the fact that the camcorder can acquire footate 3D as 1080 50i and 1080 24p in the PAL version, I see not really a need to take the US-Version if you are based in Germany or Austria.

 

[W.Mayer]

i record since some years only with us models with 60 frames as motion look much better with extra 10 frames every second.


i have a sony ex1r that have all frame rates and its easy to compare for me.


but with 3d i cant watch at all this 50 hz 3d as my panasonic 3d plasma flickers with 2x 50 a lot.


with 2x 60 i cant see any flicker and i have the better motion.

 

[Wolfgang S.]

Interesting. I have not any issue with my 3D Panasonic Plasma with 50i, but ok.


But it is the first time I hear that 50i has a weaker motion resolution compared with 60i (you do not see that any more, is the typical opinion).


But if it works for you - fine. Today all our equipment works fine with 60i too, the only risk could be some interferences with 50Hz-light.

 

[NorthTV]

Thanks for the info. Nice feature allowing for two SD cards to record simultaneously for backup purposes. Assume the camera does not have internal memory?

 

[lycheejo]

I am on my way to AMSTERDAM´s IBC-Show. Because it´s a Prosumer-Cam, they will not show it at this Professionel Show - what a mess.....

Maybe one of the guys there has an item - hidden in his cubbard....


I am also hoping to see and hear about SONY´s plans for the JVC MVC-codec....

They all keep us standing in the rain.....

And we are stupid enough, to buy each and every thing. I guess, the companies can´t stop laughing and wondering about us....


greets

L.

 

[lycheejo]

THE GOOD NEWS.....


I got some files for testing. It´s the same (MTS), like the SONY TD10 - nowadays, because they will put on further formats, when the Cam will be released in (what they say now...) December 2011.


I droped them into VEGAS PRO 10e - timeline. Great... IT WORKS...


L.

 

[Don Landis]



Quote:
I got some files for testing. It´s the same (MTS), like the SONY TD10 - nowadays, because they will put on further formats, when the Cam will be released in (what they say now...) December 2011.


I droped them into VEGAS PRO 10e - timeline. Great... IT WORKS...

Just to state, in case you don't know, but you can stick the TD-10 MTS files on the Vegas 10e timeline too. However, they do not work perfectly as you might be dreaming today that they do. If the Panasonic memory is formatted as FAT32 ( like the TD-10 ) then those MTS files will be size limited and need to be stitched together to form a single contiguous file for editing. This is why with the Sony TD10 you need to use PMB. Sure you could manually stitch the files together and resync the audio which is quite a chore but PMB is easier. I've done it so I know. I suspect that the Panasonic will be including some sort of software or in camera firmware processing to get those MTS files ready for use in Sony editing.


Your test of the Panasonic MTS in Vegas is an excellent indicator of compatibility, but it is not the complete story. You should hope that Panasonic will complete the compatibility process and create their own software that emulates what PMB does so you will not be caught in a quagmire of conversion nonsense like the owners of JVC have to do. Learn from the JVC owners and do not buy any brand camcorder unless you know there is a complete work flow solution for your video to distribution, that currently only Sony offers.


BTW- 2D Canon HD camcorders have the same problem with the FAT32 formatted storage and they have a software that makes their file structure compatible with Vegas and Mac based editing. I know this as I bought a Canon for my daughter and it came with the needed software. I bought her the Canon ( as opposed to the Sony) because it had this Mac compatibility with iMovie as she owns a Mac.

 

[lycheejo]



of course beside my JVC-TD1 I also have the SONY TD10 in my stock.


I just wanted to say, that PANA-files have the same codec like TD10.

Easy to drop and edit in VEGAS 10e.


Sometimes I do not understand all those technical discussions. I do NOT have any problems with TD10.


L.

 

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