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Panasonic RP82 questions

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MarkMaple

Discussion Starter · Nov 19, 2002

I have just about decided to buy a RP82, but have a couple of questions.

I read an on-line review that stated that the RP82 has copyright circuitry

that prevents you from running the video through an AV receiver. Is this

correct?

Is the RP72 the same player in a changer version or is the RP82 a

better player?

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cfraser

· #2 · Nov 19, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkMaple
I have just about decided to buy a RP82, but have a couple of questions.

I read an on-line review that stated that the RP82 has copyright circuitry

that prevents you from running the video through an AV receiver. Is this

correct?

Is the RP72 the same player in a changer version or is the RP82 a

better player?

I don't know what that online review meant. If you think about it, it's basically nonsense. The RP82 has absolutely no idea where you're sending its video signals. So it can't KNOW if you're putting them into a receiver, a display device, or a toaster oven! It is possible there could be some circuitry in the *receiver* to prevent this or that, but I don't know of it, sure don't have it in either of mine.

The RP82 and 72 are essentially the same electronics, so A/V quality is the same. Choose your poison, purists usually prefer a single disc player, but I think in this case there wouldn't be a noticeable difference between the two for DVD's. [Personally, I would not use either of these players for CD play though.] You might prefer the 72 if you want a black-finished component.

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fredsal

· #3 · Nov 19, 2002

Whoa - I understand the RP72 has the same de-interlacer (Faroudja), but the MPEG decoder is of lower quality than the one in the RP82.

I don't have one yet, but I've been reading the various threads on the R82, and this issue has been mentioned more than once.

cfraser

· #4 · Nov 19, 2002

I think you're thinking of the RP62 (no?).

The 72 and 82 are the same, except that 72 has a 5 disc carousel and is available in black, and the 82 has a coaxial digital output (in addition to the Toslink they both have). With promotions and stuff, you can often get the 72 cheaper than the 82.

fredsal

· #5 · Nov 20, 2002

cfraser - After doing some searches, I couldn't find anything to support my statement - so I assume you're right. Somewhere someone did mention that (unlike the RP82) the RP72 lacked a coax digital output; is the audio portion of the RP72 different from the RP82 in any other way?

cfraser

· #6 · Nov 20, 2002

Fred, I have owned the 56 and 82, have had the 62 and 91 at home for demoing, but have not played with the 72 except in the store. So I don't know much about its guts except what I have gleaned from reviews. The 72 does have a great picture, that I can say for sure. To be honest, I never really did comparisons with the audio of the mentioned units.

Michael4JBL

· #7 · Nov 25, 2002

The RP-82 has the Faroudja chip? I think it is the Sage chip. Can anyone confirm.

tomdkat

· #8 · Nov 25, 2002

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Originally posted by Michael4JBL
The RP-82 has the Faroudja chip? I think it is the Sage chip. Can anyone confirm.

It uses a combo of BOTH chipsets, like th eRP56 does (I believe).

Peace.....

UTSoxFan

· #9 · Nov 25, 2002

I beleive Sage Inc. is Faroudja's parent company, so the chips are one in the same. Sage Inc. purchased Faroudja earlier this year.

MikeSRC

· #10 · Nov 25, 2002

Sage is Faroudja's parent company. Sage was acquired by Genesis Microchip earlier this year, so they're all under the Genesis banner now.

Michael4JBL

· #11 · Nov 25, 2002

What about the chipset in this unit. Is it a desent chip? Is it like the chip in the 91, or are we looking at an inferior chip?

MikeSRC

· #12 · Nov 25, 2002

The Genesis/Sage/Faroudja FLi2200 deinterlacing chip used in the RP-56, 62 and 82 is one of the best available. It is superior to the one used in the RP-91, which is an older Genesis model. Both the RP-82 and 91 use the same Panasonic MPEG decoder.

sspears

· #13 · Nov 25, 2002

There is no such thing as the "faroudja" chip. Faroudja is the box side of the business. They went to Sage for help. They want to move their algoritms into a chip that they could sale to other people.

Sage then bought Faroudja and the FLI 2200 is the chip they created. When people askes "Does it have the Faroudja chip?" they are asking if it has the FLI2200.

The 2200 says Sage on it.

Genesis bought Sage and the new 2300 says Genesis FLI 2300 on it.

pnichols

· #14 · Nov 26, 2002

This Genesis/Sage/Faroudja thing reminds me: Isn't there a scene in Star Wars TPM where increasingly larger swimming creatures keep eating increasingly larger swimming creatures?

cfraser

· #15 · Nov 26, 2002

Are you thinking Microsoft oughta be on the scene soon?

Bob W

· #16 · Nov 26, 2002

Just ordered an RP82 from One Call (great price and free shipping to boot). Anyway, looking for a CCF file for a Pronto TS1000. Checked Remote Central, but only CCFs there are for PP65, RP62, RP91, etc. Nothing for 72 or 82. Anbody got a CCF that will work for the RP82? I'd like to get the Pronto setup before the DVD player arrives.

Bob

MikeSRC

· #17 · Nov 26, 2002

Use the RP-91 CCF. It works for most functions, most importantly for discrete on/off commands.

ZZtop

· #18 · Nov 27, 2002

I have a Pioneer Plasma 503 and the Panny rp-62 .

Problem is I don't seem to be able to the progressive out to turn on in the Panasonic.

Progressive is clearly switched on in the setup menu and it has only ONE set up of component outputs.

When I push the Display Info button I get 525i, NOT 525p.

I have an HDTV Tuner and it sends 720p, which is what shows when a "p" mode is being displayed, so its not a case of "i" all the time or something.

Either the Pioneer 503 has some serious progressive input issues or this is the Panny.

Oddly enough several people over on epinions mentioned it was hard to get progressive to turn on. Does ANYONE have any ideas, this is consuming huge amounts of my time as this is the 3rd player upgrade for me.

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swillis55

· #19 · Nov 27, 2002

Is the progressive light on on the front of the player? If not, you have to press the button on the front of the player for it to come on.

Cheers,

Sean

ZZtop

· #20 · Nov 27, 2002

I read one of the complaints about this panny was a short small manual with small type size, I guess its true as I missed any mention of this button though I am sure its there.

Thank you sir!!!

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