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I've heard many good things about both of the TV's and the only major differences I've seen are the resolution and the price. I've been reading through the threads and I've seen that resolution isn't as important from different distances. When I'm watching TV I will be out of the 1080p effective range, however when I play Video games I like to sit up close so I would be able to take full effect of the added resolution (I have a PS3). If the PQ is basically the same on the two sets and the lesser resolution isn't a problem then the price on the Pioneer PDP-5070HD can't be beat. I wanted to hear everyones input on this since I will be buying soon and these are the two HDTV's I rounded down too. Also are there any other similar models that i should add to the mix. Thanks in advance.
 

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My major concern is how the PQ compares between the two at a normal viewing distance. The pioneer is a very good deal and Cnet has it highly rated. They don't have the TH-50PZ700U review as of yet.
 

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To fully use your PS3 1080P is needed, and most gamers game close to there units. It sounds as if the 50PZ700U is the way to go, but don't forget to check out Pioneer new Monitor PDP-5000EX 1080P.
 

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I just discovered yesterday, thanks to avsforum, that the Panasonic doesn't do 1080p over VGA. VGA is the only way to watch HD-DVDs in 1080p on a non-Elite Xbox 360. For me, that's a dealbreaker.

That makes no sense to me at all. What's wrong with HDMI or DVI? Why would you use a VGA connector for a HDTV at any rate?
 

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That makes no sense to me at all. What's wrong with HDMI or DVI? Why would you use a VGA connector for a HDTV at any rate?

The non "Elite" Xbox's do not have HDMI. So they have to use VGA to get their 1080p but this TV supposedly doesn't support it.
 

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Go with pz700 esp, if you are a gamer and sit up close when gaming...also if u want the best possible picture with the ps3...blue-ray style, you will be covered.

Yeah with the 1080p I would be covered from both far away and close in. The only problem is the hefty price tag over the Pioneer.
 

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The non "Elite" Xbox's do not have HDMI. So they have to use VGA to get their 1080p but this TV supposedly doesn't support it.

wonder if that could be solved with a firmware update?
 

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Yeah with the 1080p I would be covered from both far away and close in. The only problem is the hefty price tag over the Pioneer.

How much are you willing to spend b/c i would think the 700 compares more to the picture of the fhd-1...which we all know is incredible. Not downing the 5070, because once again, its a fabulous display...i just think if you want that resolution, can sit closer, and use it for blue ray...it would be worth it to me. I'm pretty certain the 700 has better picture quality from what i saw in store environments...bad place to compare, but still. Like i've said to many people, check plasma concepts...they have a good price shipped w/ the AVS100 coupon. still its a $600-650 difference in price.
 

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Yeah the difference on Plasma Concept is like $500-$600 like you said. That makes the choice a bit easier. However it's still not cheap (like any good TV is) and the shipping from that site is very high at $225 for standard rate. Has anyone dealt with Plasma Concepts before? Are they reliable? How are they with returns? Again, does the price difference justify itself between the two models?
 

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Actually i just bought from them on sat night. They processed my order on monday, it was shipped on monday and the delivery is scheduled for monday- wed. of next week. The shipping is done through BAX...a global shipping company, and have been quick and careful to me in the past. They are a very reputable source, im sure if you ask around on here you'll find some positive reviews-im not so sure about their testimonials section, but its very ....vast...LOL...but the good thing is that they are an authorized panasonic dealer...helpful if problems arise.
 

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I recently exchanged a 5071 for a PZ700. Price difference was roughly $600. No regrets!! Both of these TV's are awesome but I do prefer the 700U because of the increased resolution. Only thing I miss is the 3rd Component input on the 5070.
 

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Both units are great and you will be happy with either unit, however if you will be doing a lot of gaming, I would suggest the 50PZ700 since it does have a better resolution.


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Bob Doseck

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Our local retailer eventually have the very first long wait 50PZ700 coming in from Panasonic Canada. I went to help set it up and both the owner of the store & I were quite disappointed when it is out from the box. Even after some tweaking, it still no come close to the Samsung 5054 that sit beside it well even the 52" Samsung LCD looks better than it. The Panny black is gray! the detail are there when sitting very close but when sitting in 8ft away, the color from the Samsung stands out a lot better than the Panny. Also the glare on the Panny is not acceptable! We end up closed down the store early and need to put a black cloth to cover the front door of the store in order to really test out the unit. Now that store owner trying hard to sell me a Samsung instead since they dun carry Pioneer.
 

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That makes no sense to me at all. What's wrong with HDMI or DVI? Why would you use a VGA connector for a HDTV at any rate?

Others already answered that - the only way to get 1080p out of a non-Elite 360 is VGA.


As to whether this set can support 1080p over VGA through a firmware update, I've no idea, but the manual says it doesn't now, and there are reports in the owners thread that confirm that it does not.


I could "work around" this by buying some adapters, but that doesn't seem optimal, or buying a new $480 Elite Xbox 360, but that seems like a waste of money, especially since so many competing 1080p TVs support 1080p over VGA.


Whoever keeps talking about VGA issues with the 360 - if you're talking about the contrast, they fixed that in the latest 360 update, to the thrill of countless 360 owners. I know lots of people who have their 360s hooked up by VGA; in fact, it's considered the best way to hook up a regular 360 now that the update has arrived.


So, perhaps the 750s will do 1080p/VGA, or perhaps I'll look at the new Samsungs, which will.
 

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The question is whether the added resolution will make much of a difference at all. Unless I'm sitting up close while gaming (which I may very well be) the added resolution over the Pioneer won't be noticeable at a "normal" viewing distance. So I'm wondering if the price is justified over a 720/768p model.


Also, I went into BB earlier today and they had the TH-50PZ700U hooked up in a cinema booth. I didn't see what medium they were running through it but I'm not sure if it was blue ray. Whatever was playing on the Panasonic looked a bit grainy and the colors weren't as good as I would have hoped. This may just have been because of the possible DVD that was playing on it. They didn't have this model in the Magnolia section but I was able to see another model in the section that really caught my eye. The Pioneer PRO-1140HD had a great PQ and the price at best buy was $200 less that the Panasonic (due to the lack of 1080p). However, as I said I wonder how much of a difference the two resolutions ill make if the Pioneer has such a beautiful PQ.
 
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