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I thought I would start a dedicated thread for the 2100 as I received mine today. Seems like quite a bit of interest for the 2100 and I can see why. With limited setup and listening so far I am very impresed. Here is a link for the 2100:

http://www.parasound.com/nc/2100.php


I hope to spend more time in the next few days listening to some music and tweaking the sub levels. I will post more thoughts when I have had more time with the 2100. I hope more owners will post their thoughts on the 2100 as well
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Maybe Terry(TJHUB) will post some impressions in here also. He seems to be enjoying his so far(at least from what I know).


Brandon(nuance) might be snagging one soon too.....as well as the rest of Southeastern WI
 

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Maybe Terry(TJHUB) will post some impressions in here also. He seems to be enjoying his so far(at least from what I know).


Brandon(nuance) might be snagging one soon too.....as well as the rest of Southeastern WI

I just want to introduce myself, I'm the local rep for Parasound. Glad to hear you're enjoying the 2100, it's amazing how much quality Parasound packs in their product for the price.
 

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Bill,


Congratulations on your new component. May it serve you well!!!
 

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Bill,


Request: How about some pre amp line stage porn for visual guys like me?
 

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Bill,


Request: How about some pre amp line stage porn for visual guys like me?

Charles,


Thanks, I am sure the 2100 will serve me well
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I will have to refer you to my friend.....ahhh..... Doug for requests such as yours
. Actually I have not figured out how to post pictures from my camera here but I will try to figure it out.


We just watched Yes Man and I really like tha fact that the 2100 does not have to be on for the HT Bypass. The Rogue Perseus had this feature as well. With the Bel Canto PRe3 having to be on and set to input 5 (Bypass input) it sometimes did not go to input 5 due to my Harmony 688. So you could be watching a movie or sports etc. and then realize you did not have the front R&L speakers on.


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Bill,


Good news thus far for ya



Good idea on starting this thread. As you know I love my 2100!


Keep us posted,


Brandon

Brandon,


Thanks
. I will not get much listening time till later in the week. But so far I am impressed. It was a snap to setup and the codes for the 2100 were in Harmony database so that was quite easy as well. The one thing I will have to remember is to turn the volume down when powering off the 2100. The PRe3 had a power on volume setting which was a nice feature. Updates to follow
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Brandon,


Thanks
. I will not get much listening time till later in the week. But so far I am impressed. It was a snap to setup and the codes for the 2100 were in Harmony database so that was quite easy as well. The one thing I will have to remember is to turn the volume down when powering off the 2100. The PRe3 had a power on volume setting which was a nice feature. Updates to follow
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Bill

Take your time, sit back and enjoy it!


I am just glad that anyone that I may have persuaded to try the 2100 enjoys it



As for posting pics on here, shoot me a PM. I can help you with that or post them for you if you email them to me.


Good evening gents,


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Brandon,


Thanks, I will PM you inregard to posting pictures
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I have spent more time listening with the 2100 and I am still very impressed. I have not been able to a direct comparison to the 885 as of yet. To do a comparison to the 885 I would have to use the Main preouts of the 2100 full range (without the sub) instead of the Hi Pass output I am using now. This way I could compare the two in full range with the 885 set in the Pure mode. I feel this would be the best way to compare them to get a apples to apples comparison
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Going of memory from my comparison of the 885 for 2 CH using a analog input and a digital input (coaxial) the 2100 has better SQ in all aspects IMO. Soundstage (height and width), imaging and midrange (vocals) are better than the 885. I also feel when using the sub with the 2100 it is not as localized as when using the sub in Stereo mode with the 885. When I get a chance I will use the Main preout of the 2100 to compare to the 885 in Pure mode. That will be the real test IMO. One feature that the 2100 has that no other preamp I have had is the 12v trigger. This is a great feature so I do not have to manually turn on my amp whenever I use the 2100.


I bought the 2100 from Audio Advisor as a open box although it looks brand new to me with the protective plastic still on the display window. I see AA still has some available on their site. Great price with a full Parasound warranty and neither the box or the 2100 were marked as "B"stock.


Bill
 
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Great thread, Bill. I'll be joining the owner's club real soon.


Was it you that liked the 2100 better than the Musical Fidelity A5? I can't put my finger on who it was...
 

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Great thread, Bill. I'll be joining the owner's club real soon.


Was it you that liked the 2100 better than the Musical Fidelity A5? I can't put my finger on who it was...

Nuance,


Thanks. I will look forward to your thoughts on the 2100 when it arrives. I looked at the MF A5 awhile back but when I found out it did not have a remote power on function I took it of my list of possible preamps. From what I have heard it is a great integrated amp but when used in a HT system it needs to have a remote power on function IMO.


I had a chance to compare the 2100 in full range with no sub to the 885 using the digital output of my Consonance CD-120 to coaxial input of the 885 (in Pure mode). I used my SPL meter to set the levels of each input as close as possible. When switching from input 1 to the HT Bypass input on the 2100 it is almost instant making a comparison very easy.


Well I am somewhat surprised that the SQ of the 2100 and the 885 are very close
. My initial listening with the 2100 was with the sub and from my above post thought the 2100 was better in all aspects to the 885. This shows the importance of doing a A-B comparison as going of memory is not a proper comparison. I then connected the pre out of the 2100 to the High Pass output and turned my sub back on.


I then compared the two and found that of course there was more bass output with the 2100 but imaging and soundstage opened up ever so slightly. I have seen this mentioned a few times in reviews where speakers were tested in full range and then crossed over at say 80Hz with a sub. I can not recall the reviews but the reviewers noted the same slight SQ improvments I heard. I believe it was mentioned that the speakers are not trying to produce a full range signal enabling the speaker to focus more on the midrange and high frequencies.


My next step is to put my PS Audio DLIII back in my system between the CD-120 and the 2100. I think this will show if the DACs in the CD-120 are on a par with the DLIII. If one thing I found out besides not trusting my very flawed memory is that how impressive the SQ of the 885 is when fed a digital signal from the CD-120. I would like to add I am far from an audiophile (no golden ears here
) but I give it my best when doing these comparisons.


I will post my thoughts when I add the DLIII to the mix, this will be interesting IMO.


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When you say 885, what are you talking about? Sorry for the dumb question.



I heard that exact DAC last weekend and really liked it. In comparison to the Oppo's DAC's running directly into a Parasound 2100, the soundstage width and depth grew, and imaging tightened up. The entire sound stage moved closer a little as well, though that may have just been a slight difference in dB level.


I look forward to your results.
 

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When you say 885, what are you talking about? Sorry for the dumb question.



I heard that exact DAC last weekend and really liked it. In comparison to the Oppo's DAC's running directly into a Parasound 2100, the soundstage width and depth grew, and imaging tightened up. The entire sound stage moved closer a little as well, though that may have just been a slight difference in dB level.


I look forward to your results.

Nuance,


I am referring to the Onkyo 885 which I am using as a prepro. Hopefully over the weekend I can do a comparison with the DLIII in my system. But with it being Easter I better not push my luck
. In fact I can also do a direct comparison of the 2100_CD-120 and the 2100_DLIII_CD-120.


That would be a very telling comparison as it would show how much of a difference the DLIII will make. I will be busy
! Maybe when all is said and done I can sit back relax and enjoy listening to some music. I forget sometimes what I have this system for
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So have you hooked up the PS Audio DAC for some comparisons yet?

I did
............... when feeding the 2100 a analog feed from the Consonance CD-120 Balanced and a digital output of the CD-120 as well then to the 2100. It was hard to compare as the volume was slightly higher with the DLIII so I was trying to match volume levels, switch inputs on the 2100 and listen for any differences.


To be honest I could not tell much of a difference if any at all. But the DACs in the CD-120 are supposed to be of good quality not sure which ones they are though. When I had the Duet the difference was night and day between the DACs in the Duet and the DLIII.


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So coming from the classic SB, the PSIII should also be a fairly noticeable improvement too I would think considering the duet is very similar?


I love my SB3 and if a seperate DAC like the PS Audio III can help, why not give it a try, right



You read so much about people who think DAC's are a waste and others feel they add quite a bit. Theres only one way to find out.......ha!


I PM'ed ya Bill.


Oh,

what difference did you notice specifically from switching between the PS DAC to the SB Duet?


Thanks!

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Oh,

what difference did you notice specifically from switching between the PS DAC to the SB Duet?


Thanks!

Brandon

I believe the DAC in the SB3 is better than the Duet. Plus when using the analog output of the Duet the volume is much lower than the digital output. With the DLIII the SQ in all aspects was much better than the Duets analog output.


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For what it's worth, I'm taking a squeezebox duet for a "joyride." My brother purchased one and loves it, so I asked him to bring it over yesterday for a spin. In short, once you get the remote's firmware updated and initially get everything set up, it's pretty cool.


We made a comparison to the Denon CD Changer I have, which is hooked up via analog. We hooked up the sqeezebox via optical digital and there wasn't a discernible difference between the two. Tonight I will hook of the sqeezebox via analog and compare it to the Denon. It should be a good time.
 

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For what it's worth, I'm taking a squeezebox duet for a "joyride." My brother purchased one and loves it, so I asked him to bring it over yesterday for a spin. In short, once you get the remote's firmware updated and initially get everything set up, it's pretty cool.


We made a comparison to the Denon CD Changer I have, which is hooked up via analog. We hooked up the sqeezebox via optical digital and there wasn't a discernible difference between the two. Tonight I will hook of the sqeezebox via analog and compare it to the Denon. It should be a good time.

Very cool,

Let me know your thoughts.


B
 
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