Anyone selling the 7100 at a discount? I'll buy one today if the price is right.
Joe M.
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Parasound's NEW CLASSIC is now available - Model 7100 Pre/Pro, and the 5250 5 ch Amp
I'm sure everybody will be excited to know that the new Classic gear from Parasound is now available to order. They released it this week with much anticipation.
A typical 7 channel setup will consist of the 7100, 5125 and 2125. This will cost $5,500 MSRP and be fully THX Ultra II Certified. If you have 4 ohm speakers you’ll get 185-200 watts per channel or 125 watts per channel if they are 8 ohm. This is likely the lowest cost THX Ultra II complete separates system available from any manufacturer.
The top of the line setup will consist of the 7100, 5250 and 2250. This will cost $6,700 MSRP. The output would be increased to 385-400 watts at 4 ohms and 250 watts at 8 ohms.
The released products include the following:
Model 7100 - 7.1 Channel Surround Controller that includes DDEX, PLIIx, DTS-ES96, THX Ultra II, 10 source switching, 6 analog inputs, 8 digital inputs, 13 video inputs, 7.1 channel analog input with Bass Management, Video Upconversion (Composite - S - Component), Component Video On Screen Control, Main & Remote Zone operation, 2-way RS-232, 2 IR inputs, 1 fixed and 2 programmable 12v triggers, back-lit universal/learning remote for 6 added devices, software upgradeable, PC setup, 3 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $3,000 MSRP - available now!
Model 5250 - THX Ultra II certified, 5 Channel amp with 250 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 385 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 45 peak amps, Fully discrete circuitry with 2 toroid transformers, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, 4 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $2,500 MSRP - available now!
Model 5125 - THX Ultra II certified, 5 Channel amp with 125 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 185 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 35 peak amps, Fully discrete circuitry with 2 toroid transformers, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, 3 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $1,800 MSRP - available now!
Model 2250 - THX Ultra II certified, 2 Channel amp with 250 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 400 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 350 watts per channel, 2 ohms, 700 watts bridged 8 or 4 ohms, 45 peak amps, impedance switch for 2 ohm operation, bridging switch for stereo/mono operation, A/B speaker terminals with individual on/off, 18 dB/octave high pass filter switchable 20Hz or 40Hz, Fully discrete circuitry with toroid transformer, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, rear mounted gain controls, 115/230v selectable on rear panel, 3 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $1,200 MSRP - available in March
Model 2125 - THX Ultra II certified, 2 Channel amp with 125 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 200 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 125 watts per channel, 2 ohms, 400 watts bridged 8 or 4 ohms, 35 peak amps, impedance switch for 2 ohm operation, bridging switch for stereo/mono operation, A/B speaker terminals with individual on/off, 18 dB/octave high pass filter switchable 20Hz or 40Hz, Fully discrete circuitry with toroid transformer, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, rear mounted gain controls, 115/230v selectable on rear panel, 2 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $700 MSRP - available in March
Model 275 - THX Ultra II certified, 2 Channel amp with 75 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 125 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 125 watts per channel, 2 ohms, 200 watts bridged 8 or 4 ohms, 35 peak amps, impedance switch for 2 ohm operation, bridging switch for stereo/mono operation, A/B speaker terminals with individual on/off, 18 dB/octave high pass filter switchable 20Hz or 40Hz, Fully discrete circuitry with toroid transformer, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, rear mounted gain controls, 115/230v selectable on rear panel, 1 rack space, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $500 MSRP - available in March
I should get my first set(s) in a week. I'll let you guys know what I think. If you have questions feel free to post.
thanks,
Brent Huskins
Media Design
A typical 7 channel setup will consist of the 7100, 5125 and 2125. This will cost $5,500 MSRP and be fully THX Ultra II Certified. If you have 4 ohm speakers you’ll get 185-200 watts per channel or 125 watts per channel if they are 8 ohm. This is likely the lowest cost THX Ultra II complete separates system available from any manufacturer.
The top of the line setup will consist of the 7100, 5250 and 2250. This will cost $6,700 MSRP. The output would be increased to 385-400 watts at 4 ohms and 250 watts at 8 ohms.
The released products include the following:
Model 7100 - 7.1 Channel Surround Controller that includes DDEX, PLIIx, DTS-ES96, THX Ultra II, 10 source switching, 6 analog inputs, 8 digital inputs, 13 video inputs, 7.1 channel analog input with Bass Management, Video Upconversion (Composite - S - Component), Component Video On Screen Control, Main & Remote Zone operation, 2-way RS-232, 2 IR inputs, 1 fixed and 2 programmable 12v triggers, back-lit universal/learning remote for 6 added devices, software upgradeable, PC setup, 3 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $3,000 MSRP - available now!
Model 5250 - THX Ultra II certified, 5 Channel amp with 250 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 385 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 45 peak amps, Fully discrete circuitry with 2 toroid transformers, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, 4 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $2,500 MSRP - available now!
Model 5125 - THX Ultra II certified, 5 Channel amp with 125 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 185 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 35 peak amps, Fully discrete circuitry with 2 toroid transformers, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, 3 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $1,800 MSRP - available now!
Model 2250 - THX Ultra II certified, 2 Channel amp with 250 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 400 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 350 watts per channel, 2 ohms, 700 watts bridged 8 or 4 ohms, 45 peak amps, impedance switch for 2 ohm operation, bridging switch for stereo/mono operation, A/B speaker terminals with individual on/off, 18 dB/octave high pass filter switchable 20Hz or 40Hz, Fully discrete circuitry with toroid transformer, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, rear mounted gain controls, 115/230v selectable on rear panel, 3 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $1,200 MSRP - available in March
Model 2125 - THX Ultra II certified, 2 Channel amp with 125 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 200 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 125 watts per channel, 2 ohms, 400 watts bridged 8 or 4 ohms, 35 peak amps, impedance switch for 2 ohm operation, bridging switch for stereo/mono operation, A/B speaker terminals with individual on/off, 18 dB/octave high pass filter switchable 20Hz or 40Hz, Fully discrete circuitry with toroid transformer, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, rear mounted gain controls, 115/230v selectable on rear panel, 2 rack spaces, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $700 MSRP - available in March
Model 275 - THX Ultra II certified, 2 Channel amp with 75 watts per channel, 8 ohms, 125 watts per channel , 4 ohms, 125 watts per channel, 2 ohms, 200 watts bridged 8 or 4 ohms, 35 peak amps, impedance switch for 2 ohm operation, bridging switch for stereo/mono operation, A/B speaker terminals with individual on/off, 18 dB/octave high pass filter switchable 20Hz or 40Hz, Fully discrete circuitry with toroid transformer, low heat design, DC servo and relay protection, auto on/off with DC trigger, adjustable audio sensing automatic on/off, gold plated RCA's, heavy duty gold 5-way speaker terminals, ground lift switch, rear mounted gain controls, 115/230v selectable on rear panel, 1 rack space, rack kit available, 10 year warranty - $500 MSRP - available in March
I should get my first set(s) in a week. I'll let you guys know what I think. If you have questions feel free to post.
thanks,
Brent Huskins
Media Design
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Brent,
Any information where Parasound will manufacture this equipment?
Any information where Parasound will manufacture this equipment?
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The Parasound is probably a very good option, but not the lowest price available. The Anthem AVM30/PVA7 combination is also THX Ultra 2, and has comparable (if not better) features and an MSRP of $4,500. I got mine from a dealer for $3,600. The Emotiva DMC-1 and MPS-1 Combo is also about $4,500, but I don't think it is THX Ultra 2 certified.
Chris
| Originally posted by bhuskins This is likely the lowest cost THX Ultra II complete separates system available from any manufacturer. |
Chris
It would be nicer to have a cheaper amp option from Parasound with a 100 watt per channel x 7, but it would likely not be THX certified.
Although the AVM is of course THX certified the PVA7 is not. This isn't the end all spec, but it's not an apples to apples comparison.
Parasound's new 7100 setup is still the least expensive as far as I can find in both pieces being THX and actually it's 3 pieces from Parasound.
Brent Huskins
Media Design
Although the AVM is of course THX certified the PVA7 is not. This isn't the end all spec, but it's not an apples to apples comparison.
Parasound's new 7100 setup is still the least expensive as far as I can find in both pieces being THX and actually it's 3 pieces from Parasound.
Brent Huskins
Media Design
Doesn't look like the 7100 has i.Link?
I'm very surprised that a major but mainstream company would bring out a completely new design $3k+ pre-pro at this time with both no digital video switching and no firewire/way of receiving hi-res audio digitally. VERY surprised.
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I am not... just for the same reasons Lexicon came out with the MC-4 and Bryston with the SP1.7. Some of us out there have high end systems and just want a surround decoder... nothing more, nothing less. I sometimes really wonder how many of all of the extra bells and whistles actually get used by people.
| Originally posted by rynberg I'm very surprised that a major but mainstream company would bring out a completely new design $3k+ pre-pro at this time with both no digital video switching and no firewire/way of receiving hi-res audio digitally. VERY surprised. |
Note that an HDMI module will be available in the near future for the 7100.
Brent Huskins
Media Design
Brent Huskins
Media Design
Is there a link to these products on the Parasound website. I could not find any info when I looked.
Thanks
Thanks
Not yet, but it's coming. I would suspect in the next week or so.
Brent Huskins
Media Design
Brent Huskins
Media Design
For those interested, I received a PDF copy of the Parasound 7100's user guide today. It's 70 or so pages and 3 MB. If anybody wants a copy I'll be happy to email it to them. It won't be posted on their site until they finish the redesign. Just send me a PM or email.
thanks,
Brent Huskins
Media Design
thanks,
Brent Huskins
Media Design
Brent,
Can you comment on the DACS, bass management, and analog pass through/bypass? How will the 7100 compare to the Halo line? As it retails at a significantly cheaper price, can we assume it incorporates cheaper components? When you say a new module will be made available in the future, are you implying hardware upgradeability a la Onkyo/Integra Research? That would be too much to ask for.
Thanks,
Joe M.
Can you comment on the DACS, bass management, and analog pass through/bypass? How will the 7100 compare to the Halo line? As it retails at a significantly cheaper price, can we assume it incorporates cheaper components? When you say a new module will be made available in the future, are you implying hardware upgradeability a la Onkyo/Integra Research? That would be too much to ask for.
Thanks,
Joe M.
Other questions would be...
The C-1 and C-2 are made in Finland (or Denmark) or somewhere, right? Where is the 7100 going to be made? Is it related at all to the C-1 and C-2? What DSP engine does it use? (Motorola, SHARCS, Cirrus, etc. ?)
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Analog BM, or does it digitize the 5.1 analog input? And if so, what is the resolution of the ADCs (and DACs, while I'm asking...) I would assume 24/96 ADCs and 24/192 DACs. ?? Who makes the converters?
The C-1 and C-2 are made in Finland (or Denmark) or somewhere, right? Where is the 7100 going to be made? Is it related at all to the C-1 and C-2? What DSP engine does it use? (Motorola, SHARCS, Cirrus, etc. ?)
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| 7.1 channel analog input with Bass Management |
They use several of the 24/192 DACS (both for A to D and D to A conversions) from Wolfson. They are using Wolfson's top of the line codec - the WM8770. The bass management is a patented hybrid process that occurs both in the digital and analog domain (again all 24/192 when converted.) The manual has detailed info about it. Signal processing is by the Motorola Symphony 56367-7.
The units I believe are made in Finland as well and this is a new design not based on the C1/C2 platform, but it has some similarities.
Brent Huskins
Media Design
The units I believe are made in Finland as well and this is a new design not based on the C1/C2 platform, but it has some similarities.
Brent Huskins
Media Design
"I'm very surprised that a major but mainstream company would bring out a completely new design $3k+ pre-pro at this time with both no digital video switching and no firewire/way of receiving hi-res audio digitally. VERY surprised."
Parasound is very conscious of the lack of digital video inputs, but they also have kept close tabs on HDMI chip development problems and product compatibility (current HDMI chips have a 20% off spec gamma problem that will not be fixed until sept). Chip set implementation has also been a problem some products will drive 15 meters and some have a problem with 2 meters. Prestige lines can not take a chance on a product that will only work with a few products and cause ill will with the consumer (note HALCRO has bumped their processor back again to deal with the HDMI issue). Large mfgrs (read Asian) can put out an early adopter unit and deal with the issues. I have been working with and in daily contact with Parasound and the HDMI switching developers, this Chip Set is a PITA.
As far as firewire, inside the CE mfging world it is dead (pioneer & denon are about it). There are some people who spent a lot of money to get it going, all they have to show for it is lighter wallets.
Parasound is very conscious of the lack of digital video inputs, but they also have kept close tabs on HDMI chip development problems and product compatibility (current HDMI chips have a 20% off spec gamma problem that will not be fixed until sept). Chip set implementation has also been a problem some products will drive 15 meters and some have a problem with 2 meters. Prestige lines can not take a chance on a product that will only work with a few products and cause ill will with the consumer (note HALCRO has bumped their processor back again to deal with the HDMI issue). Large mfgrs (read Asian) can put out an early adopter unit and deal with the issues. I have been working with and in daily contact with Parasound and the HDMI switching developers, this Chip Set is a PITA.
As far as firewire, inside the CE mfging world it is dead (pioneer & denon are about it). There are some people who spent a lot of money to get it going, all they have to show for it is lighter wallets.
So what does the Halo line offer that makes it superior to the "classic 7100" line? Is room EQ like the upcoming update to the Sherwood Newcastle P965 something that could be offered in the future via software upgrade?
Joe M.
Joe M.
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It looks like the Halo amps offer balanced XLR inputs while the Classic amps do not. Maybe the Classic pre/pro also doesn't have XLR outputs. Based on the specs posted, I can't tell any differences on the processing side compared to the Halo line.
Brian
| Originally posted by Jermmd So what does the Halo line offer that makes it superior to the "classic 7100" line? |
Brian
Heres a link to an article that ecoustics has posted
Looks pretty interesting. http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messa...81/125330.html
Looks pretty interesting. http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messa...81/125330.html
That URL is bad when you click it. Ok, it's fixed now.
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