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I bought a Blackmagic DeckLink HD Extreme 3


Only after buying it they told me it does not capture at 1080p via HDMI, but only via SDI


Do you know if there is a HDMI capture card that supports 1080p?


(sorry for my english)
 

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I've never heard of a 1080p capture card and don't think it could even exist (or at least not worth the R&D for a company to develop). 1080i over component, maybe.


To 'record' in 1080p you digitally copy it bit-for-bit from the source disc directly (like copying a file).
 

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Kikyo,

Are you trying to capture 1080p/60 HDMI video content or 1080p/24 HDMI video content from a source such as Blu-Ray disk player playing H.264 compressed and encoded 1080p/24 files? If from Blu_Ray disks I don't think you will find any device to record them since the BR player requires HDCP from a HDMI destination in order to prevent the content from being recorded.
 

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Well my theory was since AnyDVDHD strips out HDCP ( it allows playback on non HDCP monitors) with an hdmi out card you might be able to capture as the literature states non recording of HDCP material. I already paid for the Hauppage component capture so this may be next year. But is is cheaper than the BlackMagic. Audio capture is most likely 2 channel.
 

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Originally Posted by Davinleeds /forum/post/18199597


Well my theory was since AnyDVDHD strips out HDCP ( it allows playback on non HDCP monitors) with an hdmi out card you might be able to capture as the literature states non recording of HDCP material.

AnyDVD doesn't strip HDCP. AnyDVD strips AACS/BD+/CSS. HDCP is required by AACS and added by the player. In the absence of AACS the player doesn't add HDCP.

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Is the purchase and use of AnyDVD in the US currently legal?

Big grey area. I don't recall seeing anything in the statute about buying, only distributing/selling.
 

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Granted, but same result.


From Slysoft:

Allows you to watch movies over a digital display connection, without HDCP-compliant graphics card and without HDCP-compliant display. No need to buy an expensive monitor. Sweet!

I still think it might work
 

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AnyDVD doesn't strip HDCP. AnyDVD strips AACS/BD+/CSS. HDCP is required by AACS and added by the player. In the absence of AACS the player doesn't add HDCP.




Big grey area. I don't recall seeing anything in the statute about buying, only distributing/selling.

It falls under the DMCA ruling I think since it states that you can't circumvent or disable the protection mesure and encryption which is what AnyDVD HD does. The DMCA also applies to individuals if memory serves me.


This is why DeCSS is also illegal in the US and isn't include by default in the linux distribution even if it is used only for playing your own disk. You have to enable it separatly but a notice popup in many distribution warning you that this is against the law in the USA and dependencies..
 

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Originally Posted by Davinleeds /forum/post/18200509


Granted, but same result.


From Slysoft:

Allows you to watch movies over a digital display connection, without HDCP-compliant graphics card and without HDCP-compliant display. No need to buy an expensive monitor. Sweet!

I still think it might work

AnyDVD doesn't strip HDCP, it's as simple as that. It removes the requirement for it by removing AACS, but doesn't strip or decrypt HDCP. When AnyDVD is in use for BD, HDCP doesn't even come into play. It won't decrypt an HDCP input from an external device.

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It falls under the DMCA ruling I think since it states that you can't circumvent or disable the protection mesure and encryption which is what AnyDVD HD does. The DMCA also applies to individuals if memory serves me.


This is why DeCSS is also illegal in the US and isn't include by default in the linux distribution even if it is used only for playing your own disk. You have to enable it separatly but a notice popup in many distribution warning you that this is against the law in the USA and dependencies..

If you go look into it, it really is a big grey area, a real mess. Some things are clearly illegal, like creating/distributing products to circumvent. Where it gets messy is on the end user side.


This is from the US Copyright Office summary of the DMCA:
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Section 1201 divides technological measures into two categories: measures that prevent unauthorized access to a copyrighted work and measures that prevent unauthorized copying2 of a copyrighted work. Making or selling devices or services that are used to circumvent either category of technological measure is prohibited in certain circumstances, described below. As to the act of circumvention in itself, the provision prohibits circumventing the first category of technological measures, but not the second.


2Copying is used in this context as a short-hand for the exercise of any of the exclusive rights of an author under section 106 of the Copyright Act. Consequently, a technological measure that prevents unauthorized distribution or public performance of a work would fall in this second category.
 

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Originally Posted by stanger89 /forum/post/18200966


AnyDVD doesn't strip HDCP, it's as simple as that. It removes the requirement for it by removing AACS, but doesn't strip or decrypt HDCP. When AnyDVD is in use for BD, HDCP doesn't even come into play. It won't decrypt an HDCP input from an external device.




If you go look into it, it really is a big grey area, a real mess. Some things are clearly illegal, like creating/distributing products to circumvent. Where it gets messy is on the end user side.


This is from the US Copyright Office summary of the DMCA:

In any case, legal or not, they won't come after the lowly individual that rip a BD for himself. Firstly they don't know about it unless you feed it to the net via BT or an other sharing system or if you start selling your copy on a street corner.


It all depend on your conscience, but hey, we all have a certain mesure of elasticity when it comes to our conscience anyway.
 
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