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If the Amazon listed specs are correct, it only supports Netflix and Youtube. As a Vizio P-series owner, I need a player that supports Amazon HDR. So for now the Philips is out for me.
 

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At $399 I think I will just keep my preorder for the Xbox One S... Wish the Xbox had 2 HDMI outputs but my setup is only 5.1 and I can get by with optical out to AVR..
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Decided to cancel my preorder since there are new reports stating that the PS4 Neo will be out this year. Waiting for more information.
 

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I have literally never owned a Phillips (or Funai) device. And I've never known anyone to sing their praises or even talk about owning a Phillips device, even though I know Phillips has been around forever.
So: Is Phillips any good? The Samsung seems to have a lot of issues that require firmware fixes, could we expect good updates from Phillips? Especially once UHD gets cracked and they start the stupid race with new UHD-BD+ versions all the time.
What about quality and longevity? Could I expect this $400 device to last at least 2 or 3 years?
 

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I hope that price gets lower than $400 USD, I can't see paying more for less.
Why would anyone consider this player? By late July or early August you can get a Xbox S U-Ray player with HDR for $299. Now if it had DolbyVision maybe, but rumor is LG will have DV U-Ray player by the end of the year.
 

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Why would anyone consider this player? By late July or early August you can get a Xbox S U-Ray player with HDR for $299.
This is incorrect. The Xbox due this Summer is the 2TB version, which is $399. The 500GB unit is due in December, and that's the one that will be priced at $299. And apparently it's not clear if either Xbox model will bitstream audio, which is a concern for some.
 

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This is incorrect. The Xbox due this Summer is the 2TB version, which is $399. The 500GB unit is due in December, and that's the one that will be priced at $299. And apparently it's not clear if either Xbox model will bitstream audio, which is a concern for some.
It's clear. MS reps have said that it is like the current XBOne. That it does not bitstream the advanced audio codecs. Which really only affects anyone wanting Atmos or DTS:X. Otherwise 7.1 Dolby True HD and DTS-HD MA will just be decoded by the XBOne and sent out as 7.1 PCM. Which should also be an option on the Philips UHD BD player. Just like the other two UHD BD players out already.
 

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I still plan on getting one to check out picture quality, if there are actually more than 2 apps, and these "issues" that exist with the Samsung:

1) Is there the same "red smear" issue that the K8500 has on saturated red scenes with regular BD? (BDs with saturated reds look bad overall on the K8500)
2) Does the Netflix app play HDR?
3) Can the built in media player play TrueHD codec (and therefore Atmos demos)?
 

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Seems like the Samsung is better than the Philips, right? Am I missing something?


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How is it better? There are no reviews of the Philips player yet so i don't see how one can say that the Samsung is better at this point.
 

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Why would anyone consider this player? By late July or early August you can get a Xbox S U-Ray player with HDR for $299. Now if it had DolbyVision maybe, but rumor is LG will have DV U-Ray player by the end of the year.
To my understanding, the Xbox player will not bitstream the HD audio formats and that means no Atmos or DTS:X...
I wouldn't want a UHD blu-ray player that lacks this ability so i can definitely see a reason to get the Philips instead of the Xbox.
 
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How is it better? There are no reviews of the Philips player yet so i don't see how one can say that the Samsung is better at this point.
I thought there was something I read about a lack of apps? If true then that would be where the K8500 is better than the BDP7501. But with UHD BD playback I would expect them to be very similar.
 

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I thought there was something I read about a lack of apps? If true then that would be where the K8500 is better than the BDP7501. But with UHD BD playback I would expect them to be very similar.
Beyond Netflix & Youtube, the Samsung player comes with M-GO and Amazon Video but in order to use the M-GO for 4K/UHD material, you will also need a Samsung display which makes it uninteresting for me personally. And i don`t even use Amazon video so again, no big deal.
The Netflix & Youtube apps however, i do use them both and they come with the Philips player and support 4k streaming as well to my understanding.

But of course, if M-GO & Amazon video apps are a must, then i can understand why the Samsung will look more interesting.

I just hope it has a really good HDR-->SDR conversion tool just like the Panasonic player has, can`t wait to read some initial reviews of this player soon.
I really like the slim design of the player as well, fits perfectly with the rest of my electronic at home.
 
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