[dethwing6]

Now, I know most of you are thinking that these aren't normally comparable, they aren't even in the same price range. That doesn't necissarily mean the pricier one is better.


Through a special deal, I am getting the AVR 430, brand new and from an authorized dealer, for about the same price as the 1014TX-K(about $50 more). Now, immediately, I think the AVR 430 is better, but I'm just being cautious. People speak very highly of the 1014TX-K here, which one should I go with?


Oh, as an aside, is there a device that takes TV-coax and split it up into something I can plug into my receiver?


Thanks


Oh, I'm plugging these into the receiver:

http://www.cerwinvega.com/products/h...ies/avs51.html


and two of these for zone II or speaker set B:

http://www.dcmspeakers.com/products/cabinet/dcm16s.htm

 

[dethwing6]

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[dethwing6]

Anyone please?


I'm basically trying to decide between video upconversion and multi-room ability. Can anyone comment on these?

 

[cburbs]

Compare the features and decide which ones you want more.

The Pioneer has the nice auto set up feature.

The HK is a nice unit as well.

 

[Johnny Bax]

Well, since nobody else has added an opinion yet, I'll try first. I have not auditioned either system, but I have auditioned an HK630 and a Pioneer Elite 54TX, so I think I do have an understanding of the differences in the "Pioneer sound" vs. the "Harmon Kardon" sound. On a purely musical basis, for my ears, the HK wins hands down. The HK sound is more warm, lush and detailed.


That being said, the features of the Pioneer blow the HK430 out of the water.


If it were me, and if I wanted/needed the video upconversion, I would either buy the 1014TX now or wait to buy the HK435, which will have video upconversion.


If, on the other hand, the most important thing about the receiver is it's musicality, then I'd take the HK 430 now at that great price.

 

[Ja Phule]

From what I understand, the Pioneer is multiroom, but not multisourced, the HK is multisource (if I remember correctly) and it has an extra remote for zone 2. The 430 will not transcode composite/svideo to component though. The on screen displays will only work on composite/svideo and not component.

 

[dethwing6]

Anyone know where I can go to get some info on the 435? Maybe my ailing Sony will last that long. So basically after the 435 get up-conversion, the only thing the 1014TX will have on it is PLIIx and MCACC? How big a difference is that?

 

[Johnny Bax]

From the US Press release from the 2004 Cedia expose:

Following is an overview of the Harman Kardon audio/video components and System Solutions that will be introduced at CEDIA 2004 at the Indianapolis Convention Center, Booth 343 (September 10 – 12):


AVR Series Receivers: Unmatched Sonic Performance and Flexibility


Harman Kardon’s 7.1-channel AVR 635, AVR 435, AVR 335 and AVR 235 and 6.1-channel AVR 135 audio/video receivers are significantly upgraded from previous models, and offer an expanded complement of the latest Harman Kardon technologies, features and connectivity options to redefine receiver performance and value in their respective categories. The AVR 635, AVR 435 and AVR 335 include Harman Kardon’s groundbreaking EzSet/EQ feature, which provides precise automated room equalization and comprehensive system calibration functions to achieve extraordinary sonic realism.


Representing a major evolution in audio/video receiver functionality, EzSet/EQ automatically measures the frequency-response peaks and dips inherent in every listening room, and applies a compensating full-range equalization curve for all loudspeakers in the system, providing smooth, accurate in-room frequency response. EzSet/EQ also automatically determines if the loudspeakers are connected properly, and sets speaker-output levels and delay times. The AVR 235 includes an EzSetâ„¢ remote with automatic speaker-level calibration, while the AVR 135 is supplied with a full-function remote.


All five AVR Series receivers are ideal for use in HDTV-based home entertainment systems and custom installations, and include wide-bandwidth, HDTV-compatible component video switching as well as switchable digital input polling, a Harman Kardon convenience feature that detects whether the audio signal from a program source (such as a cable set-top box) is digital or analog, and automatically selects the correct input type. All models offer more video and audio inputs than they previously did, and incorporate upgraded 24-bit/192kHz D/A converters and powerful 32-bit DSP processors to deliver superlative fidelity and resolution.


The receivers offer a host of advanced features such as a Quadruple-Crossover Bass-Management System, which allows the selection of one of six different crossover frequencies for each of the four loudspeaker groups in a 7.1-channel system (models AVR 635, AVR 435, AVR 335 and AVR 235) or a Triple-Crossover Bass Management System (AVR 135); Dolby* Pro Logic* IIx, Dolby Headphone and Dolby Virtual Speaker processing (all models except the AVR 135); A/V Sync Delay (all models except the AVR 135); exclusive Logic 7® surround-enhancement technology to deliver heightened sonic realism from surround sound and stereo source material; and many additional refinements.


Pricing for Harman Kardon’s AVR Series receivers is as follows: AVR 635, $1,299; AVR 435, $999; AVR 335, $799; AVR 235, $549; AVR 135, $449. All models will be available in fall 2004.

 

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Anyone know where I can go to get some info on the 435? Maybe my ailing Sony will last that long. So basically after the 435 get up-conversion, the only thing the 1014TX will have on it is PLIIx and MCACC? How big a difference is that?

The 435 has DPL IIx (the 430 will soon through a free firmware upgrade) and a new EZ-Set EQ comprable to MCACC.


The 430 is still a significant upgrade over the 1014 in sound quality but defintely lacks some features. Just depends what is more important in your set-up.

 

[Ja Phule]

The 435 should also do Logic 7 and DPL IIx over 5.1 (including DTS).

 

[dethwing6]

Damn, if I can get the 435 for the same price I'm getting a 430, I'll definately wait. It's got everything I want/need and for the future. If I decide to start sticking some tower speakers to this thing(upgrading piece by piece), is it going to be able to handle it?


What's shipping date btw? I think I read October 29th in another thread.

 

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If I decide to start sticking some tower speakers to this thing(upgrading piece by piece), is it going to be able to handle it?

Absolutely.