OK gang Ive narrowed it down to these choices, thanks to the forum for all the help so far.. my question is , on the pioneer screens are they the same exact thing minus the glossy frame and warranty, and how does the picture quality compare to the Panny HD system? my biggest concern is with PQ with satellite being that I watch that the most, next comes DVD , I do plan on going with a HDTV sat receiver in the near future and a denon pro scan DVD. component inputs are a must ? which is the model to go with.. reason I'm asking here is that I never seen the pq of the 433 . .the pro 800 looks great but the price is a little more then I want to spend.