how many of you have the brightness set to atleast +3 ? I've seen the settings on here say that for reference settings it should be at 0. At zero on my tv the dark areas of the image have no detail and the blacks look crushed. Just wondering if this is common or just something I'm noticing on my tv.
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-1 or -2 looks right for me
mankite, are you using D-Nice's latest User Mode settings?
Because if so, I can see what you mean. I've been happy with his original Movie Mode settings and hadn't checked out the User Mode update, but just put in his User Mode settings so I could A/B them.
After pausing a newscast that showed a background of the Boston skyline at an angle with tall building sides in shadow, I noticed that the User Mode settings pretty much obscured details of windows and floors in shadow that became quite visible in his Movie Mode settings. Even bumping Brightness up to +3 didn't bring forth as much detail as Movie Mode.
Here are his Movie Mode settings for you to check out, that I think were specific to Motorola cable boxes. For some reason I think he called for Contrast to be at 39 and not 40, but maybe not, and I'm pretty sure the rest are accurate:
MOVIE MODE
Contrast = 40
Brightness = + 1
Color = -3
Tint = 4 Red
Sharpness -5
Pro Adjust:
PureCinema
Film Mode = Standard
Text Optimization = Off
Picture Detail:
DRE Picture = Low
Black Level = Off
ACL = Off
Enhancer Mode = 2
Gamma = 3
Color Detail:
Color Temp = Low
CTI = Off
Noise Reduction:
3DNR - Low
Field NR = Off
Because if so, I can see what you mean. I've been happy with his original Movie Mode settings and hadn't checked out the User Mode update, but just put in his User Mode settings so I could A/B them.
After pausing a newscast that showed a background of the Boston skyline at an angle with tall building sides in shadow, I noticed that the User Mode settings pretty much obscured details of windows and floors in shadow that became quite visible in his Movie Mode settings. Even bumping Brightness up to +3 didn't bring forth as much detail as Movie Mode.
Here are his Movie Mode settings for you to check out, that I think were specific to Motorola cable boxes. For some reason I think he called for Contrast to be at 39 and not 40, but maybe not, and I'm pretty sure the rest are accurate:
MOVIE MODE
Contrast = 40
Brightness = + 1
Color = -3
Tint = 4 Red
Sharpness -5
Pro Adjust:
PureCinema
Film Mode = Standard
Text Optimization = Off
Picture Detail:
DRE Picture = Low
Black Level = Off
ACL = Off
Enhancer Mode = 2
Gamma = 3
Color Detail:
Color Temp = Low
CTI = Off
Noise Reduction:
3DNR - Low
Field NR = Off
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I agree about the lost detail in blacks with the reference settings. My wife even picked up on it. I'll have to try the Movie settings when I get home and see how they do.
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A brightness of +3 will just crush your blacks more and make you lose detail. Quite the opposite of what you said.
At one point, D-Nice also came up with settings for Optimum Mode. I like these for football and occasional regular TV viewing when I want to jazz up a bland source a little - well, maybe more than a little, actually.
Here they are - I don't recall tweaking them any myself, but I may have. Remember that you lose the ability to go into the Pro-Adjust submenu and also that the room light sensor automatically comes on when using Optimum.
OPTIMUM MODE
Contrast = 35
Brightness = + 1
Color = -4
Tint = 1 Red
Sharpness -5
Pro Adjust: N/A
At one point, D-Nice also came up with settings for Optimum Mode. I like these for football and occasional regular TV viewing when I want to jazz up a bland source a little - well, maybe more than a little, actually.
Here they are - I don't recall tweaking them any myself, but I may have. Remember that you lose the ability to go into the Pro-Adjust submenu and also that the room light sensor automatically comes on when using Optimum.
OPTIMUM MODE
Contrast = 35
Brightness = + 1
Color = -4
Tint = 1 Red
Sharpness -5
Pro Adjust: N/A
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Optimum mode
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my settings on my 5080 - and yes - some tv programs look like the blacks are crushed - i then move brightness up 1 or 2 notches.
MOVIE MODE for Directv
Contrast = 37
Brightness = - 1
Color = -2
Tint = 0
Sharpness -7
Pro Adjust:
PureCinema
Film Mode = Standard
Text Optimization = Off
Picture Detail:
DRE Picture = Low
Black Level = Off
ACL = Off
Enhancer Mode = 2
Gamma = 3
Color Detail:
Color Temp = Low
CTI = Off
Noise Reduction:
3DNR – Low
Field NR = Off
MOVIE MODE for blu-ray and hd-dvd
Contrast = 40
Brightness = 0
Color = +4
Tint = 0
Sharpness -6
Pro Adjust:
PureCinema
Film Mode = Adv
Text Optimization = Off
Picture Detail:
DRE Picture = Low
Black Level = Off
ACL = Off
Enhancer Mode = 2
Gamma = 3
Color Detail:
Color Temp = Low
CTI = Off
Noise Reduction:
3DNR – Low
Field NR = Off
STANDARD MODE for Directv - sports and SD channels
Contrast = 37
Brightness = 0
Color = -7
Tint = 0
Sharpness -10
Pro Adjust:
PureCinema
Film Mode = Smooth
Text Optimization = On
Picture Detail:
DRE Picture = Low
Black Level = Off
ACL = Off
Enhancer Mode = 2
Gamma = 1
Color Detail:
Color Temp = Mid
CTI = Off
Noise Reduction:
3DNR – Low
Field NR = Off
I've spent a lot of time and effort and money to get these settings right for my tv
MOVIE MODE for Directv
Contrast = 37
Brightness = - 1
Color = -2
Tint = 0
Sharpness -7
Pro Adjust:
PureCinema
Film Mode = Standard
Text Optimization = Off
Picture Detail:
DRE Picture = Low
Black Level = Off
ACL = Off
Enhancer Mode = 2
Gamma = 3
Color Detail:
Color Temp = Low
CTI = Off
Noise Reduction:
3DNR – Low
Field NR = Off
MOVIE MODE for blu-ray and hd-dvd
Contrast = 40
Brightness = 0
Color = +4
Tint = 0
Sharpness -6
Pro Adjust:
PureCinema
Film Mode = Adv
Text Optimization = Off
Picture Detail:
DRE Picture = Low
Black Level = Off
ACL = Off
Enhancer Mode = 2
Gamma = 3
Color Detail:
Color Temp = Low
CTI = Off
Noise Reduction:
3DNR – Low
Field NR = Off
STANDARD MODE for Directv - sports and SD channels
Contrast = 37
Brightness = 0
Color = -7
Tint = 0
Sharpness -10
Pro Adjust:
PureCinema
Film Mode = Smooth
Text Optimization = On
Picture Detail:
DRE Picture = Low
Black Level = Off
ACL = Off
Enhancer Mode = 2
Gamma = 1
Color Detail:
Color Temp = Mid
CTI = Off
Noise Reduction:
3DNR – Low
Field NR = Off
I've spent a lot of time and effort and money to get these settings right for my tv
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If only the red push was defeatable without a calibration for "Low" temp. mode.
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i had to have my tv calibrated twice to get rid of the red push -
regardless of the price or model (pio or pany) - i have to have RGB controls in my next tv. this screwing with just color is a nightmare
regardless of the price or model (pio or pany) - i have to have RGB controls in my next tv. this screwing with just color is a nightmare
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S /forum/post/12906725
If only the red push was defeatable without a calibration for "Low" temp. mode.![]()
This was posted in a thread -Just bought a 5080-that is already buried.
To fix crushed blacks - at least on HDMI inputs - go to Options - HDMI input and change "Video" setting to "Color 4" instead of "Auto". Then you may have to adjust brightness.
Thank you to whoever suggested this - it works really well. The downside is it works only on an HDMI input(for me it's my Dish input) and not on antenna or component inputs. If anyone knows a fix for those it would be appreciated.
This is a very obscure setting. D'Nice - can you add it to your settings?
To fix crushed blacks - at least on HDMI inputs - go to Options - HDMI input and change "Video" setting to "Color 4" instead of "Auto". Then you may have to adjust brightness.
Thank you to whoever suggested this - it works really well. The downside is it works only on an HDMI input(for me it's my Dish input) and not on antenna or component inputs. If anyone knows a fix for those it would be appreciated.
This is a very obscure setting. D'Nice - can you add it to your settings?
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1. Why twice?
2. Same here on next t.v. purchase.
1. Why twice?
2. Same here on next t.v. purchase.
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I can't crush blacks unless I leave movie mode and low temp. mode?
I can't crush blacks unless I leave movie mode and low temp. mode?
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Could you PM me the two guys, the one that did ti right and the guy that screwed it up?
Could you PM me the two guys, the one that did ti right and the guy that screwed it up?
I will try the different settings. I just can't stand when there are dark areas where you can't see detail and it's a black blob. I was watching the empire strikes back yesterday and there's alot of dark scenes like where luke fights vadar for the first time. And I also notice it alot on peoples faces when they are coming out of a dark areas into a lighted one and until they do it's just a black blob with no detail. I had to set my plasma on it's side for 30 minutes on the ride home and I know your not supposed to do that and was just wondering if it is my set or if others that are sensitive to this also notice it.
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I did this last night for my Xbox 360, but when I went to do it on my HD-A3 the screen had a strong red tint to it. Strange.
I did this last night for my Xbox 360, but when I went to do it on my HD-A3 the screen had a strong red tint to it. Strange.
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