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After two disappointing years of re-badged Sharp Products (BDP-31/33 and BDP-41/43), Pioneer has released a Mediatek (8555) chipped design that offers excellent deinterlacing and cadence recognition in synthetic and realworld tests. The 53FD offers additional video processing via Marvell's Qdeo chipset also used in most mid to upper level Pioneer and Pioneer Elite receivers.
 

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Although alternatives are always good, the question I'd like you to answer winston in your testing is:


* what non-ipod/non-iphone features does this unit offer that the Oppo BDP-93/95 does not, as we know some features have been lost such as source direct... not to mention implementation of cinavia and analog sunset. I am truly curious if there are any core features Pioneer has included here that Oppo did not, or perhaps DLNA functionality?


I like the fact that Pioneer has competitively priced the player with the Oppo, and the styling looks good. It gives a good alternative that you can actually buy in a store as opposed to online only.
 

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The store I work at recently received the SC-57 and BDP-52FD. We have them hooked up to the new 70" Elite display. So far, I am very impressed with all the pieces here.


One of the problems I am having is with the SACD playback. I have tried 2-Channel SACD discs and they play just fine in the DSD format. Another disc I tried has both 2-Channel and 5.1 offerings, and I am unable to switch to the 5.1 tracks. Lastly, on a Hybrid disc, I can only get the CD layer to play. I can't get the player to switch to either the 2-Channel or 5.1 channel SACD layer tracks.


Does anyone have any good advice?


Thanks in advance.
 

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So I guess I'll have to visit this thread as well in order to stay posted, as well as keep you guys posted. So ... here I am enjoying every minute of it!
 

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Originally Posted by yhtomitb /forum/post/21081545


The store I work at recently received the SC-57 and BDP-52FD. We have them hooked up to the new 70" Elite display. So far, I am very impressed with all the pieces here.


One of the problems I am having is with the SACD playback. I have tried 2-Channel SACD discs and they play just fine in the DSD format. Another disc I tried has both 2-Channel and 5.1 offerings, and I am unable to switch to the 5.1 tracks. Lastly, on a Hybrid disc, I can only get the CD layer to play. I can't get the player to switch to either the 2-Channel or 5.1 channel SACD layer tracks.


Does anyone have any good advice?


Thanks in advance.

I don't have this Pioneer model but I've owned and still do a couple of their past Elite units. Seems like Pioneer still doesn't provide the functionality to allow the user to switch audio tracks during playback.


To switch between a 2 channel and 5.1 channel you may have to enter the initial set up and select the default track for SACD (2.0 or 5.1). And to switch to the other track you enter the setup again. That is how it works on my 59AVI and 48AV. I hope this helps.
 

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I don't have this Pioneer model but I've owned and still do a couple of their past Elite units. Seems like Pioneer still doesn't provide the functionality to allow the user to switch audio tracks during playback.


To switch between a 2 channel and 5.1 channel you may have to enter the initial set up and select the default track for SACD (2.0 or 5.1). And to switch to the other track you enter the setup again. That is how it works on my 59AVI and 48AV. I hope this helps.

Thanks for the suggestion. However, I have the DV-58AV, which is a pumped up DV-48AV. I also have the new BDP-52FD. Unfortunately, there is no option like that in the BDP-52FD's setup menus. Yet even with these bugs, I still think it's one of the best digital transports we've got at this time, so I'll continue to love mine and recommend it.
 

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Winston - What made you get this instead of waiting for the 53FD?

deinterlacing is excellent as is speed with fast start turned on.


i rely on my display and receiver for video processing


53 is not out yet
 

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deinterlacing is excellent as is speed with fast start turned on.


i rely on my display and receiver for video processing


53 is not out yet

Of course, if I get my hands on the manual for the BDP-53FD and it turns out that some of my complaints about the BDP-52FD have been addressed, I'll have to somehow upgrade to the 53. In the event that the 53 is released after the 30-day limit, I guess I'll be selling my 52 on ebay or something.
 

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I'm returning my BDP-52FD to Pioneer and am going to purchase the BDP-53FD when it's released. I shall give my SACD as 176.4 KHz PCM issue a rest. If the BDP-53FD doesn't have that capability, then I shall continue persuing it.
 

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Just picked up a 52fd yesterday at BB.


I haven't upgraded my player in about 3 years and it was time. Looking for a good universal player to go with the VSX-53 I was purchasing as well (upgrade from a 4 year old 92-txh). By the way I received a BPD-41FD for free and will be putting it in the bedroom (it'll make a great Netflix box and upgrade to the blu-ray there as well).


Well, first impressions are good, the blu ray playback is excellent as would be expected to my Pioneer PDP and through the Epson 8310 projector. DVD-Audio works as expected through HDMI as well.


Here's where it get dicey. It appears that SACD multi channel is not supported in this player through HDMI. I used multiple SACD multi channel discs to test this out and the 52fd only plays the two channel track. I tried setting it to PCM and bitstream and all the receiver sees is stereo (in direct surround mode). I called Pioneer support and the guy on the phone (after walking me through changing the HDMI out from PCM to Bitstream and back) sort of admitted that this may be an issue that they had apparently discussed in a staff meeting this very same day. I politely asked him to pass onto engineers, etc. that if this player doesn't or won't do multi-channel SACD over HDMI, and especially if the new 53FD won't perform that function, that a lot of Pioneer fans will not be happy. I'll give this player a few more weeks of play time, but if the SACD thing isn't worked or figured out I may take it back. Of course I do have the PS3 to fall back on for SACD multi channel playback. BTW, this is definitely an issue as I have the new Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here SACD on order (Nov. 7th release).
 

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bigbucky,


Insert the disc in the player and hit the "SACD/CD" button on the remote. This will cycle through the CD/SACD 2CH/SACD MCH output. I was able to get the player to play a multi-channel SACD disc this way. If for whatever reason this doesn't work, let me know and I'll retest it with the review unit I have (I've already have boxed it up to return to Pioneer).
 

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Dave,


Thanks for your input on this.


I tried your suggestion with multiple discs (containing stereo and multi channel tracks; Pink Floyd, DSOTM and Clapton, 451 Ocean blvd.) and it did not work. The CD/SACD button seems to perform no function whatsoever. Additionally, tried multiple combinations of HDMI and Audio out settings of bitstream and PCM.


I've got firmware 2.08 and checked for an update on the network (nothing yet).


Any other thoughts?
 

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What happens when you hit that button without a disc in the player? You should see the display screen on the unit change disc priorities as I described above. The button doesn't work at all when discs are playing though.
 

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OK...I just retested and I can change between layers with the SACD/CD button (thought I was losing my mind after reading your post). When you stop the disc, hit stop a second time, then hit the SACD/CD button and it should change layers from there.
 

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I was gona say: try it in stopmode. I can't try it because I already uninstalled mine. I'll be stuck with my half-snale-paced BDP-23FD until the BDP-53FD is available. I've heard that the BDP-51FD/05FD and BDP-09FD are the slowest out there. That's why I called my BDP-23FD half-snale-paced.
 

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Gentlemen,


Thank you very much, solved my problem. The key is that when the front display shows SACD then press the CD\\SACD button to cycle through (the display cycles from CD, Stereo to Multi). Completely unintuitive. I've seen a couple of other posts from folks in the other Pio BDP-xxx forum that couldn't get the multi track to work either. I wonder how many folks will return these thinking that they "don't work"?


I am now satisfied with the player. I know that I'm not as discerning as some but I can say that this player meets all of my expectations.
 

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I already said try the CD/SACD button a week ago on the other thread - that's similar to how my Denon 2900 works (button on the front) - looks like nobody took any notice or took it seriously.


The 140 is reported to play SACD-R, anyone wants to give the 52FD a try?
 
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