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I threw together a bunch of numbers for the top 30 movies in the 2003 box office race. For each I have studio, box office, esitmated cost (including marketing, in $millions), ratio of box to cost, and concensus critical review. Box office and costs came from www.boxofficemojo.com , average critics score came from www.rottentomatoes.com . A few thoughts


1) This past weekend, Pirates of the Caribbean pased Matrix Reloaded for second place. Anyone else shocked by this?


1a) Along with PotC, Seabiscuit, SWAT, Freaky Friday and Freddy vs Jason are still bringing in significant dollars and will move up a bit on the list.


2) Although I threw in ratio of box office to costs, I don't think we can draw too many conclusions as to studio profitability. There are many other sources of revenue (including, what, 4 versions of the T3 DVD) and all sorts of movie studio accounting tricks we don't know much about. However, I do think we can get some idea as to the relative profitability of the movies compared to each other.


3) I want to see some correlation between the quality of a movie (at least in the eyes of critics) and how well it did. Throw out a few outliers and that's generally the case. But the number cruncher in me knows that's cheating and I'm not really sure if we can conclude anything.


1 Finding Nemo Dis. 334,007,377 130 257% 99%

2 Pirates of the Caribbean Dis. 282,976,937 180 157% 78%

3 The Matrix Reloaded WB 280,422,549 200 140% 73%

4 Bruce Almighty Uni. 241,390,420 116 208% 49%

5 X2: X-Men United Fox 214,935,344 150 143% 80%

6 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines WB 149,420,269 240 62% 74%

7 Bad Boys II Sony 136,654,068 170 80% 26%

8 Anger Management SonR 135,645,823 110 123% 42%

9 Bringing Down the House Dis. 132,690,162 61 218% 34%

10 The Hulk Uni. 131,942,260 172 77% 61%

11 2 Fast 2 Furious Uni. 126,930,095 116 109% 48%

12 Seabiscuit Uni. 110,530,690 112 99% 80%

13 S.W.A.T. Sony 109,756,707 110 100% 47%

14 Spy Kids 3D: Game Over Dim. 109,020,000 63 173% 43%

15 How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days Par. 105,813,373 #N/A #N/A 41%

16 The Italian Job Par. 103,786,998 85 122% 74%

17 Daddy Day Care SonR 103,307,739 90 115% 30%

18 Daredevil Fox 102,543,518 123 83% 44%

19 American Wedding Uni. 101,182,530 85 119% 56%

20 Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle Sony 100,518,250 160 63% 40%

21 Freaky Friday Dis. 97,698,712 45 217% 90%

22 Legally Blonde 2: Red, White and Blonde MGM 89,819,137 75 120% 38%

23 Freddy vs. Jason NL 78,997,000 55 144% 41%

24 Old School DW 75,585,093 49 154% 58%

25 Holes Dis. 67,383,924 40 168% 77%

26 Kangaroo Jack WB 66,924,790 85 79% 8%

27 The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Fox 65,658,701 108 61% 18%

28 Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life Par. 64,721,166 130 50% 26%

29 Shanghai Knights Dis. 60,476,872 75 81% 67%

30 Just Married Fox 56,127,162 38 148% 20%
 

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I am left with several questions after looking over this list:


1. How does it cost $116M to make Bruce Almighty? I realize there were some special effects in that movie, and that Jim Carrey is expensive, but even so, I remember when $116 would buy you a big action blockbuster.


2. How did Kangaroo Jack take in $67M? After seeing the preview for that movie, it was apparent to me that it would easily be one of the worst movies of all time.


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How did Kangaroo Jack take in $67M? After seeing the preview for that movie, it was apparent to me that it would easily be one of the worst movies of all time.


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We just watched the DVD last weekend with friends. We laughed uncontrollably. Could've been the wine though. That guy cracks me up but then, I bought Joes' Apartment too. KJ is worth the $3.
 

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It will be real interesting to see a breakdown of film gross that includes domestic ticket sales, world wide ticket sales, and DVD sales. Most films, including the big box office hits, make more money from their DVD sales then they do at the box office. So just think about how much Finding Nemo, POTC and Matrix Reloaded will make taking all those things into account. A hell of a profit for those studios. Same goes for the Lord of the Rings. They are making a killing at the box office then a killing on probably BOTH of the DVD versions.
 

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Minor correction: Spy Kids 3-D has a critics rating of 43% from rotten tomatoes, not 92%.
Whoops! That's a bit more than minor. The Original Spy Kids is the movie with a 92. I fixed it. Thanks
 

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1. How does it cost $116M to make Bruce Almighty? I realize there were some special effects in that movie, and that Jim Carrey is expensive, but even so, I remember when $116 would buy you a big action blockbuster.
Bruce Almighty cost $81 million to make. However, the advertising for it was $35 million. Sal added the two together, which is fair. That's a lot of money to advertise.
 

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I'm not suprised about Pirates passing Matrix - it was a much better and much more entertaining film and appealed to a broader audience.

Word of mouth did wonders for Pirates. I know we wouldn't have seen it if not for rave reviews from friends and it turned out to be probably my favorite movie of the season.
 

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I think the really amazing thing is that the SAME GUY (Bruckheimer) produced: Kangaroo Jack, Pirates, and Bad Boys II (as well as a couple of top rated TV series--like CSI). His ability to make winners (no matter how diverse) is impressive.
 
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