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Subject explains it all. What would you buy for 2 channel sound? Budget $2k or so. Or will the Klipsch suffice for music? I have Synergy setup now, but I think I may want something more balanced for music.
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Planning on Klipsch THX, do I need separate fronts for 2 Channel listening?
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If your music usage is a large % of your entertainment, then a lot of members here recommend selecting speakers based on that criteria. In other words, the speakers need to sound good to your ears for the music you like to listen to. Since reproducing music is much more demanding on speakers, speakers that sound good to you for music will work really well for HT.
Having said that, if those speakers sound good to you with your music preferrence, then they are the ones you should consider. That is why most members here recommend auditioning a variety of speakers so that you can find the ones that are most pleasing to your sense of hearing. As for whether or not they will sound better to your ears, you need to listen to them.
Good luck.
Having said that, if those speakers sound good to you with your music preferrence, then they are the ones you should consider. That is why most members here recommend auditioning a variety of speakers so that you can find the ones that are most pleasing to your sense of hearing. As for whether or not they will sound better to your ears, you need to listen to them.
Good luck.
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I have a friend with the Klipsch Ultra2's, 7.1x4, (he has 4 of the subs and 2 sub amps.) Whenever our little traveling HT group goes to his house, he always starts off by playing some music, but it is exclusively MC DVD-A's and SACD's. I must say, hi-rez, multi-channel music sounds superb on his system. I have never listened to 2-channel on his system, but based on how it sounds with MC, I would suggest you try it for 2-channel before you decide that you need to get different speakers for your music needs. I can guarantee you that it will sound *way* better than the Synergy system.
If you decide you need different speakers, DogEarz' advice of auditioning for yourself is really the best advice, although one speaker I recommend you try to audition in your price range is the AV123 Strata Mini.
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If you decide you need different speakers, DogEarz' advice of auditioning for yourself is really the best advice, although one speaker I recommend you try to audition in your price range is the AV123 Strata Mini.
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What are you planning on driving the Klipsch THX package with and are you getting the dual subs?
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Good question. What are most people driving this package with? I'm planning on separates in order to get the power I need.
Room is 20 x 17 so I'm hoping 2 subs won't be too much for that size of room.
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Room is 20 x 17 so I'm hoping 2 subs won't be too much for that size of room.
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They will up until the point where you trip a circuit breaker. 15A * 115v * 125% overload * 80% amp efficiency = roughly 1800W total output. Sure, short peaks will not trip the breaker, but if that amp truly is capable of 500 x 7, a 220v circuit would be best, so make sure you order the 220v model and put in a 20A, 220v breaker.
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Anyone here using Wyred 4 Sound amps?
I would love to drive the THX Ultra2 speakers with this amp (500w x 7) or (500w x 3 + 250w x 4).
I bet that the speakers would just sing.![]()
They will up until the point where you trip a circuit breaker. 15A * 115v * 125% overload * 80% amp efficiency = roughly 1800W total output. Sure, short peaks will not trip the breaker, but if that amp truly is capable of 500 x 7, a 220v circuit would be best, so make sure you order the 220v model and put in a 20A, 220v breaker.
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Just an amazing HT amp... take a look.
http://www.wyred4sound.com/webapps/s..._groupid=18048
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They will up until the point where you trip a circuit breaker. 15A * 115v * 125% overload * 80% amp efficiency = roughly 1800W total output. Sure, short peaks will not trip the breaker, but if that amp truly is capable of 500 x 7, a 220v circuit would be best, so make sure you order the 220v model and put in a 20A, 220v breaker.
Just an amazing HT amp... take a look.
http://www.wyred4sound.com/webapps/s..._groupid=18048
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I did take a look, that's where I got my 80% efficiency stat from. I just want people to know they can't buy 1million x 7 amps and expect to get that much power. According to the stats, that amp is capable of 3500w total output, but a 15A, 115v circuit is capable of 1800w for only a few seconds. You'll be wasting that amp's capability if not on a 220v circuit.
If you want to see something more impressive, take a look at some of the 10+kw pro-audio amps out there. 220v required.
I did take a look, that's where I got my 80% efficiency stat from. I just want people to know they can't buy 1million x 7 amps and expect to get that much power. According to the stats, that amp is capable of 3500w total output, but a 15A, 115v circuit is capable of 1800w for only a few seconds. You'll be wasting that amp's capability if not on a 220v circuit.
If you want to see something more impressive, take a look at some of the 10+kw pro-audio amps out there. 220v required.
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Heh, and I've gone and heard the 83's, but not the THX's. The 83's are ok and will please most everyone listening to both music and movies, that is if you don't mind Klipsch horn tweeters (I think they're aweful). I also thought they lacked in the midrange a little though.
Heh, and I've gone and heard the 83's, but not the THX's. The 83's are ok and will please most everyone listening to both music and movies, that is if you don't mind Klipsch horn tweeters (I think they're aweful). I also thought they lacked in the midrange a little though.
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psgcdn,
It seems we are both thinking the same thing lately.
I would try the Heresey's. I used to own the THX ultra 2 system. I will tell you that it was very good for movies. I used McIntosh equipment with them and the combo is fantastic. I did like cheaper Maggies better for music. I have since gone thru a couple of systems and have returned to horns, and once again McIntosh. They are proving to be a great match once again. I would get the Heresey's(La Scalas would be better) and pair them up with McIntosh. If too much(used) go for some Emotiva amps. I really want to try their 2 channel and monoblocks. Maybe soon.
It seems we are both thinking the same thing lately.
I would try the Heresey's. I used to own the THX ultra 2 system. I will tell you that it was very good for movies. I used McIntosh equipment with them and the combo is fantastic. I did like cheaper Maggies better for music. I have since gone thru a couple of systems and have returned to horns, and once again McIntosh. They are proving to be a great match once again. I would get the Heresey's(La Scalas would be better) and pair them up with McIntosh. If too much(used) go for some Emotiva amps. I really want to try their 2 channel and monoblocks. Maybe soon.
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LaScalas would definitely be the way to go if you could afford it and both the RF-83s and THX speakers would be better than the Heresies for both HT and music, imo.
I have heard an all Heresy HT compared to an all Cornwall system in the same house and I thought once again I wouldn't own the former because they seem too bright to me, although the Cornwall would be comparable to all of the above except the LaScalas.
5 LaScalas would be the BOMB!
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LaScalas would definitely be the way to go if you could afford it and both the RF-83s and THX speakers would be better than the Heresies for both HT and music, imo.
I have heard an all Heresy HT compared to an all Cornwall system in the same house and I thought once again I wouldn't own the former because they seem too bright to me, although the Cornwall would be comparable to all of the above except the LaScalas.
5 LaScalas would be the BOMB!
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Depends on the room size... To be more specific, I was thinking that his budget might allow for the bigger Heritage line. He would certainly come way under budget going used. But that requires a large room, or at least wide. Sometime that means using the room perpendicular to the direction people are used to to get the width. My HT used to be based on a pair of La Scala, and I can tell you that they completely disappear from the room, image-wise, when spaced out 18 to 20 feet and toe-in at 45 degrees like Klipschorns. But they never imaged for me on an 11-foot wall.
So, for a smaller room, used Heresy II or new Heresy III works. And for a wide room, one could build a Klipschorn, La Scala, and Heresy HT in the used market for 3.5 to 4.5K in speakers (not counting sub). That's what I did, except I'm in Canada so it cost a little more.
Depends on the room size... To be more specific, I was thinking that his budget might allow for the bigger Heritage line. He would certainly come way under budget going used. But that requires a large room, or at least wide. Sometime that means using the room perpendicular to the direction people are used to to get the width. My HT used to be based on a pair of La Scala, and I can tell you that they completely disappear from the room, image-wise, when spaced out 18 to 20 feet and toe-in at 45 degrees like Klipschorns. But they never imaged for me on an 11-foot wall.
So, for a smaller room, used Heresy II or new Heresy III works. And for a wide room, one could build a Klipschorn, La Scala, and Heresy HT in the used market for 3.5 to 4.5K in speakers (not counting sub). That's what I did, except I'm in Canada so it cost a little more.
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I would agree that the La Scala system would be better than the heresy, the THX ultra 2, and reference. My next upgrade will be the JBL 3631's.
As for the Heresy being bright, it depends on the room and treatments. Equipment can tame them just a little but the room treatments would help alot.
With any of the systems being mentioned(including the THX) I would think you do not need separate fronts for music.
As for the Heresy being bright, it depends on the room and treatments. Equipment can tame them just a little but the room treatments would help alot.
With any of the systems being mentioned(including the THX) I would think you do not need separate fronts for music.
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