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Plasma G10 vs LED

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4saken

Discussion Starter · Jul 27, 2009

Alright so ive been lurking and searching hardcore lately on this forum and other sites on which PLASMA to get, ive set my mind on a 50" G10, I decided to go to bestbuy to check how it looks right.. Looks good, clear, and then I looked at the corner of my right and BAM, my attention sparked on over to those new Samsung LED T.V.s .. It looked MORE clear than the G10.. and this made me stop and think lol wat just happened.. Now im on a boat and I can't find any information on these LED t.v. and how they compare to Plasmas but they sure are very clear and pretty.. Any suggestions??

Price don't matter to me much right now but what im mainly going to be using the T.V. is.. HD Movies, Xbox 360, and Multi-Tabling PokerStars, and maybe a little gaming on my laptop through HDMI.

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bowreign

· #2 · Jul 27, 2009

my advice would be *take your time*. you might indeed end up going

with an led, or some other lcd, but i strongly advice against a snap decision. there are basically 3 reasons:

1) like a suit or a dress, a tv can look really impressive on first glance, but sometimes those flashy suits/dresses aren't really the ones you end up wanting to wear. if you can manage to spend at least 20 minutes really *watching* the various sets, you might be surprised by what you end up wanting to really own.

2) if you can manage it, figure some way to see the sets in their optimal state (i.e. blu ray movie, decent settings, etc); that way, you're really getting a fair comparison.

3) finally, if you end up going led, make sure to really shop around, as, for example, LG is supposed to have some bang-up sets on the market right now...

Big L

· #3 · Jul 28, 2009

If you saw an LED edge-lit LCD and you like the picture better than a G10...

I think you're crazy!

However, maybe you just like the 'look' of LCDs better. In which case I would tell you to look at getting a more conventional CCFL-lit LCD. Something like the Sammy B750 series. IMHO, edge-lit LED offers no real improvements over CCFL.

Now, if you saw something like an A950 which is a backlit LED LCD, that's a different story. I happen to really like their picture BUT I don't think they're twice as nice as a G10. Yet they cost, at least, twice as much.

Good luck.

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Damasterjj

· #4 · Jul 28, 2009

http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Sams...TV-Review.html

According to the review the samsung LED has less accurate colors or over process, and the back light is not even.

SonyHD

· #5 · Jul 28, 2009

4Saken, I've been into a couple of Best Buy's myself and got to say that I think the Panasonic 50G10 is much nicer than that of the Samsung LED's. Sure design wise the Sammys look very sleek and stylish but the Panasonic IMO looks very impressive in its own right. I've been going back and forth in regards to go with a LCD or a Plasma and everytime I keep leaning towards the plasma. The two LCD's I've been interested in is the Samsung LN52B750 (not LED) and the upcoming Sharp LED backlit LE700 series. From the reviews I've seen and read, the LN52B750 is a beautiful set and has an excellent picture but off angle viewing can be an issue. Also "whites" are supposed to be better on a LCD vs. a Plasma.

The big advantage with a plasma, especially on the Panasonic G10 is that it can handle motion with ease and still keep the resolution in tact. Also off angle viewing is a non-issue because no matter where you sit the picture will still stay sharp and clear. Another big advantage is that there is no "soap opera effect" meaning that when you watch a movie (especially Blu-ray) it won't look like someone took a home video camera and started shooting the movie. Sometimes its a bit over-the-top and looks fake. Some people really like that look whereas some do not. The plasma on the other hand will just show it naturally. The one exception is that with the Samsung B750 LCD there are ways to adjust the AMP (which works with the 240hz) so that the SOE can be minimal or turned up.

For the price there is no question that the Panasonic 50G10 offers the best value out there. I'm actually leaning towards that one myself but again still want to check out the Sammy B750 and the new upcoming Sharp LED backlit series, the LE700 before making any decisions.

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shwanC

· #6 · Jul 28, 2009

I do agree with your opinion on the G10 (I own a 42" G10), you said hd movies as your first use for the tv. Since price is not a matter, you may want to look at the V10 series, which is offered in 50". It has a screen refresh of 96hz which lets the blu-ray movie truly shine. Other than that and styling, it is mostly a G10 with more features and a Pro setting for really tuning in the picture.

Cnet offers many reviews of current and some older tv's. I frequent the site often. Check it out!

gus738

· #7 · Jul 28, 2009

forget led its still a lcd. get plasma.

ps ill write later again its hard on ps3 with no keyboard

davyo

· #8 · Jul 28, 2009

I was in BestBuy last night checking out the new Panasonic's as I plan on buying the soon to be released 65" V10,,,, anyhow I see a Pansonic 54V10 and while Im checking it out I happen to notice the new 55" LG LED set sitting right next to the V10, Wall-E was playing an both the sets and I gota say I was kinda shocked to see (in my opinion) the better picture and the blacker blacks the LG LED was puttng out over the Panny V10.

Sorry plasma ONLY lover's, but while the space scenes in Wall-E were playing, the the blacks on the LG LED reminded me of my recently sold 60" Pioneer Kuro, while the blacks on the Panny looked gray'ish compared to the LG.

I have never been a fan of LG but I gota say I was pretty impressed after watching both sets side by side.

Matter of fact I was so impressed I am now re-thinking getting the V10, and while the V10 is not off my shopping list I will say I have added the LG and Samsung LED's to that shopping list.

Yea, I know,,,, I should not be posting anything positive about LED on the plasma thread,,,, sorry I just get confussed sometimes as I own both plasma and LCD.

Cheers

Davyo

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Big L

· #9 · Jul 28, 2009

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Originally Posted by davyo /forum/post/16900230

while the blacks on the Panny looked gray'ish compared to the LG.

I'm guessing they had the Brightness on the Panasonic too high...

The black levels on a plasma vs. an LED LCD should be comparable.

Personally, there's no way I'd spend $1000 more for an LG 55LH90 than I paid for my 54" G10. I don't think the LG's picture is even in the same league as the G10 (and yes, I too saw both of them side-by-side) and I, for sure, would not pay $1000 more for an inferior picture.

Again, IMHO, the Sammy A950s and the Sony XBR8 give plasma a run for the money. BUT at around twice the price...

But in the end, it's your money and your eyes. Get whatever looks best to you and get it as big as your wallet can handle.

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4saken

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jul 28, 2009

Thanks for the input guys, I might check out the V10 and the G10 is really what im aiming towards.. Although Dave I know what you're talking about, I guess I rather save myself a grand to get another something nice

.. I'll post later this week to see what I ended up getting.

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Rebel78

· #11 · Jul 28, 2009

If it wasn't for the off angle problems, I'd be all over one. But the off angle viewing is a deal breaker for me.

shwanC

· #12 · Jul 28, 2009

davyo, also, in BestBuy there is some ambient light, and that may hurt the plasma's picture. In a bright enviroment, the blacks on a lcd can look better than blacks on plasma. Big lcd's (esp. LED) just aren't cost efficient.

davyo

· #13 · Jul 28, 2009

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Originally Posted by shwanC /forum/post/16903144

davyo, also, in BestBuy there is some ambient light, and that may hurt the plasma's picture. In a bright enviroment, the blacks on a lcd can look better than blacks on plasma. Big lcd's (esp. LED) just aren't cost efficient.

Actually the V10 and the LG LED were sitting side by side not in the BstBuy area but in a dimmly lit part of the Magnoila store inside the BestBuy,, very low lighting in that area.

Not sure what you mean by "LED's are not cost efficient" ????

Cheers

Davyo

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hhaller

· #14 · Jul 28, 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by davyo /forum/post/16900230

I was in BestBuy last night checking out the new Panasonic's as I plan on buying the soon to be released 65" V10,,,, anyhow I see a Pansonic 54V10 and while Im checking it out I happen to notice the new 55" LG LED set sitting right next to the V10, Wall-E was playing an both the sets and I gota say I was kinda shocked to see (in my opinion) the better picture and the blacker blacks the LG LED was puttng out over the Panny V10.

Sorry plasma ONLY lover's, but while the space scenes in Wall-E were playing, the the blacks on the LG LED reminded me of my recently sold 60" Pioneer Kuro, while the blacks on the Panny looked gray'ish compared to the LG.

I have never been a fan of LG but I gota say I was pretty impressed after watching both sets side by side.

Matter of fact I was so impressed I am now re-thinking getting the V10, and while the V10 is not off my shopping list I will say I have added the LG and Samsung LED's to that shopping list.

Yea, I know,,,, I should not be posting anything positive about LED on the plasma thread,,,, sorry I just get confussed sometimes as I own both plasma and LCD.

Cheers

Davyo

I'm actually a little fond of the LG LED myself. I'm a bit confused about it's shootout scores though, especially since everyone seems to like it.

GregLee

· #15 · Jul 28, 2009

I also recently spent some time at Best Buy comparing LED-LCDs with plasmas. I don't really have an opinion about which has better picture quality, however, I'd like to sound a paranoiac warning about judging this on a showroom floor. You probably are not going to know exactly where the signals come from or how the sets have been adjusted. I would rather trust the evaluation of reviewers and other knowledgeable users. (I bought a plasma, partly because the LED-LCDs were too expensive.)

Citivas

· #16 · Jul 28, 2009

I think the animation rocks on the good 1080p LED/LCD's. It looks way better than any plasma, the Kuro's included. But I still just can't stand watching films on even the highest end models. This is really a taste issue though. I was at Best Buy recently and literally cringed when I saw a film segment on their high end model in the place of honor at Magnolia. The guy next to me noticed and asked about my reaction because he thought it looked "awesome." He liked the "detail" and the "3D like" look. What I saw was a film that now looked like it was shot in HD video -- it looked more detailed but cheaper. It looked "hyper real." It didn't look anything like a movie, though. It made it feel like a TV movie, even though it was a high budget action movie. It ruined the movie for me.

bowreign

· #17 · Jul 28, 2009

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Originally Posted by Citivas /forum/post/16903869

I think the animation rocks on the good 1080p LED/LCD's. It looks way better than any plasma, the Kuro's included. But I still just can't stand watching films on even the highest end models. This is really a taste issue though. I was at Best Buy recently and literally cringed when I saw a film segment on their high end model in the place of honor at Magnolia. The guy next to me noticed and asked about my reaction because he thought it looked "awesome." He liked the "detail" and the "3D like" look. What I saw was a film that now looked like it was shot in HD video -- it looked more detailed but cheaper. It looked "hyper real." It didn't look anything like a movie, though. It made it feel like a TV movie, even though it was a high budget action movie. It ruined the movie for me.

i really hear you on this one. they were playing one of the x-men movies at sears on a few sets, and on the lcds hugh jackman looked totally fake, but on the plasmas, he had a totally natural appearance. i could see animation working really well on an lcd, but in my opinion there is something really fishy about how they handle live-action films...

gus738

· #18 · Jul 29, 2009

Try watching that exact LED lcd on a dark room (like you would watch a plasma on)then tell me which tv looks better

and try watching a movie that has shadow detail black hawk down for example. Led has an issue it crushes shadow detail.

Quote:
Originally Posted by davyo /forum/post/16900230

I was in BestBuy last night checking out the new Panasonic's as I plan on buying the soon to be released 65" V10,,,, anyhow I see a Pansonic 54V10 and while Im checking it out I happen to notice the new 55" LG LED set sitting right next to the V10, Wall-E was playing an both the sets and I gota say I was kinda shocked to see (in my opinion) the better picture and the blacker blacks the LG LED was puttng out over the Panny V10.

Sorry plasma ONLY lover's, but while the space scenes in Wall-E were playing, the the blacks on the LG LED reminded me of my recently sold 60" Pioneer Kuro, while the blacks on the Panny looked gray'ish compared to the LG.

I have never been a fan of LG but I gota say I was pretty impressed after watching both sets side by side.

Matter of fact I was so impressed I am now re-thinking getting the V10, and while the V10 is not off my shopping list I will say I have added the LG and Samsung LED's to that shopping list.

Yea, I know,,,, I should not be posting anything positive about LED on the plasma thread,,,, sorry I just get confussed sometimes as I own both plasma and LCD.

Cheers

Davyo

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shwanC

· #19 · Jul 29, 2009

My point was...

TC-P54V10: $2599.95 MSRP 'panasonic dot com'

55LH90: $3200 MSRP 'lg dot com'

comparing the suggested price only. They are actually both very close right now at Big River. And please, davyo, post about both tv's in this forum. We are here to compare/contrast both techs, positive and negative. Just as long as everyone plays nice!

Now, animation, this is new to me. I wasn't aware they looked that different on lcd v. plasma. To the video store!!

davyo

· #20 · Jul 29, 2009

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Originally Posted by shwanC /forum/post/16905960

My point was...

TC-P54V10: $2599.95 MSRP 'panasonic dot com'

55LH90: $3200 MSRP 'lg dot com'

comparing the suggested price only. They are actually both very close right now at Big River. And please, davyo, post about both tv's in this forum. We are here to compare/contrast both techs, positive and negative. Just as long as everyone plays nice!

Ahhhh,, understood, price comparison's.

As far as "cost efficient" (operating cost's) I have never owned an LED "yet" but its my understanding that the LED panels eat far less power than LCD's or plasma.

And thanks for the suggestion to post positive and negitive, sadly I will have to pass.

Im in the camp of I really like plasma, LED and LCD equally but I must admit I feel like I am walking on eggshells anytime I say anything nice about an LCD or LED here on the plasma thead,,,,, plasma owners tend to get very pissed at anything nice said about LED/LCD,,,,, I have just never understood that.

Funny thing is, when I post something positve about plasma in any LCD thread it does not seem to generate the same amount of pissed-off-ed-ness from LCD owners.

Very odd that the plasma owners get more pissed than the LCD owners do.

Anyhow, I really try to keep my positve opinions of LCD and LED to myself when ever I am on a plasma thread.

Cheers

Davyo

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