Read about the "10 lumen per watt" plasma technology. Pioneer was a champion for advancing this. The trade off with lower lumen per watt technology is a darker picture. Next year, Panasonic will have brighter models. I don't know how expensive they will be though.
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Plasmas as bright as LCD?
Hi All,
Thanks in advance for any information you want to share, and for keeping flames to a minimum when you read my questions.
I've read a number of reviews, and virtually everything I read from tech sites still has plasmas a little ahead of LCDs for picture quality. However, I am a sucker for the brightness of the LCDs, and the "Soap Opera" effect where pictures are almost too bright and crisp. What I can't stand is motion blur, so I don't want to get an LCD and be disappointed, since the two most important things on the tv will be HD sports and movies, both of which are better on Plasma from all I've read.
The question is simple then - without going nuts, does a Plasma have the capabilities of being nearly as bright as an LCD. Not necessaryily Soap Opera bright, but less "natural" and more "crisp" perhaps than what most of you who are video savants would prefer or consider correct?
I know most of you are probably calling me at least a dork by now, if not something more strong
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, but bottom line is that when I view LCD and Plasma side by side, the picture does catch the eye more on the LCD. I know the settings are designed to do that, and I know that most people say in a room at home the natural look of the plasma is better, but it is hard to disregard what looks to be a sharper, more clear picture on the LCD. But I don't actually want an LCD, so that's why I'm looking for feedback and hopefully some assurance that I really will be more happy with Plasma, given the issues LCDs have with the type of viewing I will be doing.
Thanks again for any assistance or information you want to share.
Gary
Thanks in advance for any information you want to share, and for keeping flames to a minimum when you read my questions.
I've read a number of reviews, and virtually everything I read from tech sites still has plasmas a little ahead of LCDs for picture quality. However, I am a sucker for the brightness of the LCDs, and the "Soap Opera" effect where pictures are almost too bright and crisp. What I can't stand is motion blur, so I don't want to get an LCD and be disappointed, since the two most important things on the tv will be HD sports and movies, both of which are better on Plasma from all I've read.
The question is simple then - without going nuts, does a Plasma have the capabilities of being nearly as bright as an LCD. Not necessaryily Soap Opera bright, but less "natural" and more "crisp" perhaps than what most of you who are video savants would prefer or consider correct?
I know most of you are probably calling me at least a dork by now, if not something more strong
Thanks again for any assistance or information you want to share.
Gary
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That depends on what modes you are using and if you care about whether or not you're clipping whites. A 9G Pioneer in ISFccc can hit an accurate 50-60ftL before clipping. Most Panasonics, Samsungs and LGs cannot. If you're passing judgement based on what you've seen on the wall at Best Buy, then, well, stop.
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And by the way, Samsung uses three levels of AR coatings. The top-tier offering is quite strong.
As to the topic at hand: plasmas on average cannot compete with the peak light output of LCDs. If you desire a screaming bright picture then an LCD is likely what you'll require.
That depends on what modes you are using and if you care about whether or not you're clipping whites. A 9G Pioneer in ISFccc can hit an accurate 50-60ftL before clipping. Most Panasonics, Samsungs and LGs cannot. If you're passing judgement based on what you've seen on the wall at Best Buy, then, well, stop.
As to the topic at hand: plasmas on average cannot compete with the peak light output of LCDs. If you desire a screaming bright picture then an LCD is likely what you'll require.
Let me clarify that you would need an Elite for this (or possibly the M series?).
My 6020 didn't have this mode and to get the brighter modes you pretty much lost valuable picture controls and were forced to view in a color temperature that pushed blue and DRE.
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Let me clarify that you would need an Elite for this (or possibly the M series?).
My 6020 didn't have this mode and to get the brighter modes you pretty much lost valuable picture controls and were forced to view in a color temperature that pushed blue and DRE.
I have seen dozens of these displays in a myriad of environments, and I have yet to see any Pioneer display appear as bright as the LGs/Samsungs that are fortunate enough to share shelf space with them.
You can evaluate brightness and reflection issues quite well at Best Buy, especially if you can find the remote controls to fiddle with. And Costco is even better, as they have nice prominent highbay lighting that you can clearly observe bouncing off the displays.
At our Costco, they have three new Panasonics next to the lone LG. You can see the bright reflections of the ceiling lamps clearly and brightly on the LG, like a pane of plate glass. On the Panasonics the reflections are doubled (two different coating layers), muted and wavy, like some sealant that was sprayed on haphazardly. Comparing the displayed images, the LG sports noticeably whiter whites, while the Panasonics look like you just slipped on some fashion shades and forgot to put bleach in the washer.
I have seen dozens of these displays in a myriad of environments, and I have yet to see any Pioneer display appear as bright as the LGs/Samsungs that are fortunate enough to share shelf space with them.
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If you're passing judgement based on what you've seen on the wall at Best Buy, then, well, stop..![]()
You can evaluate brightness and reflection issues quite well at Best Buy, especially if you can find the remote controls to fiddle with. And Costco is even better, as they have nice prominent highbay lighting that you can clearly observe bouncing off the displays.
At our Costco, they have three new Panasonics next to the lone LG. You can see the bright reflections of the ceiling lamps clearly and brightly on the LG, like a pane of plate glass. On the Panasonics the reflections are doubled (two different coating layers), muted and wavy, like some sealant that was sprayed on haphazardly. Comparing the displayed images, the LG sports noticeably whiter whites, while the Panasonics look like you just slipped on some fashion shades and forgot to put bleach in the washer.
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