[anthead]

Ok so Ive been looking at tvs for well over a year and never ordered it for fear of not living up to my expectations... For the longest i decided on the 40A650 and when that was discontinued i wanted the 46B750. After reading reviews and looking at the pros/cons of lcd and plasma i thought hey plasma seems much better for me (please lets not turn this into a lcd vs plasma thread) so i was planning on getting a plasma for a few months and never bought it. After the 09s got discontinued i figured i'll wait for the 10s but uhoh panasonic Fs up with their black levels. I didnt think it was a huge problem until i kept seeing it come up and even Cnet's david k found it happened on their test plasmas. So F panasonics bad black light and samsungs buzzing, i'll just stick with LED/LCD and call it a day. Most recently i was looking at the 46B8500, 46B7100 and the 46C7000. My question is what would you suggest? If the local dimming is that much better should i just pony up for the 8500 or stick to the edgelit. If edge lit should i go for the C7000 or are the improvements not worth it?


Sorry for the novel but im just tired of going back and forth with this TV crap


Thanks!!

 

[frito]

B8500 is a much better performer overall than the edge lit models


what are you going to be using this TV for mainly?

 

[anthead]

I'm still debating if i should get DirecTV or not but for now, it would be a lot of streamed movies/tv from my computer and Boxee from my appletv. Also, if it looks decent enough i'll connect my computer to the TV to watch HULU. there will also be a great deal of 360 and PS3 on it as well. Another reason why i put the X on my plasma decision is that i dont trust my wife enough to follow the "rules" and i foresee IR all night and day on that thing lol. Most of the movies we have for our lil rugrat is in SD


PS: Thanks for your response.

 

[anthead]

bump

 

[frito]



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Originally Posted by anthead /forum/post/18259582


I'm still debating if i should get DirecTV or not but for now, it would be a lot of streamed movies/tv from my computer and Boxee from my appletv. Also, if it looks decent enough i'll connect my computer to the TV to watch HULU. there will also be a great deal of 360 and PS3 on it as well. Another reason why i put the X on my plasma decision is that i dont trust my wife enough to follow the "rules" and i foresee IR all night and day on that thing lol. Most of the movies we have for our lil rugrat is in SD


PS: Thanks for your response.

IR is not all that bad on plasma, I've seen it happen our ours a few times now and its only visible on a black screen and its very hard to see, running the anti-IR scroller in the TV removed it like 5 minutes

if your going to be gaming a lot you probably want to cross samsung's off your list because they are very laggy TV's esp the LED models


the only current LED TV's i would recommend for lots of gaming are LG LH90's (local dimming LED like the B8500) and Sharp 700's


the LH90 will overall have better picture quality as well


the Sharps test a little bit faster for input lag but the LH90 will be plenty fast for all but the most demanding gamers at 2 frames of lag. the LED samsung models have anywhere from 4-5 frames of input lag in game mode and that will be really easy to feel in many games

 

[anthead]

Ive always heard LG has a bad rep for not so great quality and horrible CS

 

[frito]



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Originally Posted by anthead /forum/post/18261615


Ive always heard LG has a bad rep for not so great quality and horrible CS

Samsung's not well known for both either if you look into them.


samsung currently has an epidemic of 2007 LCD's with failing power supplies due to using the wrong value capacitors in them

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/home_...amsung_tv.html


vs LG

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/home_...zenith_tv.html


you be the judge


its worth noting though that consumer reports rates both brands as top notch for reliability within the first 3 years of use but we'll see what happens when they update their ratings in a year.

 

[anthead]

I hate being so indecisive, its so depressing and annoying... I know no matter what I get i'll like it, especially since im coming from a 21in CRT.. I just want to know that what i buy it the best i can afford and will be somewhat future proof.


Not that it should matter as for as performance but i think the LG is hideous compared to the Samsung.


Slightly off topic but are the local dimming LEDs MUCH MUCH better then the edge-lit and non LED-LCD?

 

[frito]



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Originally Posted by anthead /forum/post/18261737


I hate being so indecisive, its so depressing and annoying... I know no matter what I get i'll like it, especially since im coming from a 21in CRT.. I just want to know that what i buy it the best i can afford and will be somewhat future proof.


Not that it should matter as for as performance but i think the LG is hideous compared to the Samsung.


Slightly off topic but are the local dimming LEDs MUCH MUCH better then the edge-lit and non LED-LCD?

only if you like to watch movies/TV in a dark room because blacks will appear black.


edge LED's and CCFL's will produce less than black in a dark room how much so will vary from model to model and manufacture to manufacture, the samsung's will perform better in this area than the LG's that are not local dimming backlit LED

 

[anthead]

The thing thats keeping me from ordering an LED is the viewing angle problem.. Some people say its not bad, David K of Cnet says its terrible (but others say he's exaggerating)

 

[frito]



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Originally Posted by anthead /forum/post/18261925


The thing thats keeping me from ordering an LED is the viewing angle problem.. Some people say its not bad, David K of Cnet says its terrible (but others say he's exaggerating)

well Viewing angles are never perfect on an LCD


LG's will have have better viewing angles than Samsungs because they use a difference panel type that is superior with viewing angles.


of the Samsung LED's i've seen in stores their viewing angles are acceptable to most people but that is in bright lighting conditions, in a darker environment viewing angles will appear worse on any LCD TV but most of the top brand TV's sold today have pretty good viewing angles

 

[anthead]

FML, I think i just switched my mind back to plasma... I'll just have to wait and see if these 2010 samsungs buzz as bad as the 09

 

[bballgms]

how does the lh90 compare to the samsung c630?

which is better for hd content?

sd content?

 

[Bill]

C8000 LED has "Black Hole" blacks and 3D with 2D to 3D conversion. You'll be set for years. BTW I have one- best PQ I've ever seen. I watch most things in 3D with the conversion, sports included, of course ESPN 3D starts soon.


The only reason to go plasma is if you will have to have off angle viewing- more than 30 degrees.

 

[audionnl]



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Originally Posted by anthead /forum/post/18264382


FML, I think i just switched my mind back to plasma... I'll just have to wait and see if these 2010 samsungs buzz as bad as the 09

haha no offence but you crack me up

i was in the same boat, decided to go with the Samsung plasma C8000. I must say, i did this because it was $1000 cheaper then the LED and people seem to be very positive about the C8000. You know, all tv's have problems. The LED has flashlighting/clouding while plasma has IR/buzz. You must just figure what you think is worse. Both have great PQ so that shouldn't be a issue.