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you'll have to get the seating position off the wall... even if you can get it a foot off, that would be enough to set the back speakers on the floor behind the seating position, which many have reported workable results with...
to be honest, looking at your pictures, you've got bigger issues to deal with... the positioning of the front speakers isn't conducive in any way to good sound... i'd also take a wag that the sub isn't particularly happy where it is, but that's a guess...
if'n it was me (and i know it's not), the first thing i'd do is get your front speakers down where they belong and off the ceiling... then i'd get the sub out of the hole it's in...
then work from there...
to be honest, looking at your pictures, you've got bigger issues to deal with... the positioning of the front speakers isn't conducive in any way to good sound... i'd also take a wag that the sub isn't particularly happy where it is, but that's a guess...
if'n it was me (and i know it's not), the first thing i'd do is get your front speakers down where they belong and off the ceiling... then i'd get the sub out of the hole it's in...
then work from there...
My receiver allows me to set the speaker position delay by distance from the optimum seating position. The front speakers are aimed at that seating position. The receiver also asks if the speakers are set high or low. Unfortunately, as you can see, the front R/L are not equidistant to the screen and I can't set the L/R distance independent of each other, so I aim them differently. Given this, do you still suggest I move them? If I move them then I am going to have to deal with exposed wires.
The rear surround speakers are slightly in front of the couch, which is why I am aiming them slightly against the rear wall. Are you suggesting that I leave them ceiling mounted, but move the couch toward the TV so that those speakers are equal with, or behind the couch, then aim them directly at the seated position or slightly forward, then place a single center rear sound back speaker at floor level?
I bought this house with the options already done for the pre-wire or I would have done them differently. I do have a pre-wire for the sub to be able to move to the rear corner of the room, and had it there at one time. I have though about moving it back but honestly, that Klipsch 12" driver sounds great where it is at, although it might be more aesthetic pleasing if it were hidden.
Thank you for answering and I appreciate your advice.
The rear surround speakers are slightly in front of the couch, which is why I am aiming them slightly against the rear wall. Are you suggesting that I leave them ceiling mounted, but move the couch toward the TV so that those speakers are equal with, or behind the couch, then aim them directly at the seated position or slightly forward, then place a single center rear sound back speaker at floor level?
I bought this house with the options already done for the pre-wire or I would have done them differently. I do have a pre-wire for the sub to be able to move to the rear corner of the room, and had it there at one time. I have though about moving it back but honestly, that Klipsch 12" driver sounds great where it is at, although it might be more aesthetic pleasing if it were hidden.
Thank you for answering and I appreciate your advice.
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I have to completely agree with Chris' post. Most who are critical listeners will make the argument that the front speaker setup is most important. The left, center, and right speakers' tweeters at (or near) seated ear level. Ideally, all 3 speakers would be identical for timbre matching and convincing soundstage, though many have horizontal speakers specifically for center channel reproduction.
A 7.1 or 6.1 setup would only work if the couch or seating position is a few feet away from the back wall. There needs to be an adequate separation between the side surrounds and the rear surround(s), for enhanced envelopment over a 5.1 setup.
Possibilities I see with your room: Relocate the sub....find an equal or better location bass response-wise. Relocating could let you consider purchasing a different television/component stand that would be an aesthetic upgrade, wider than the width of the tv, in order to place bookshelf speakers of your choice to the sides of the tv, with the center speaker on the shelf just below the screen. No extra wires would be seen as they would be hidden behind the components of the tv stand.
The downside to this is a narrow soundstage for home theater; not optimal for multichannel or stereo music. I've seen this setup work just fine for predominant home theater movie enjoyment.
One formula for placement recommends the distance between L and R speakers be equal to the distance of the seated sweet spot to the center of this L to R speaker line (where the center speaker should be).
I can't tell from your pictures if you have enough space, but alternatively, short wires could be run and stubbed out at ear level; the right front on the other side of the fireplace and the left front the appropriate distance to the left of the tv. Bookshelf speakers could be placed on decorative shelving mounted on the walls or by the use of omnimounts.
There are a few threads around the forum supporting the use of height channels esp for those who would not benefit from expanding to 6.1 or 7.1 due to the rear wall placement of their seating. Heck, you could possibly keep ceiling mounted front speakers for that purpose if you didn't want to take them down.
Just some thoughts, good luck.
A 7.1 or 6.1 setup would only work if the couch or seating position is a few feet away from the back wall. There needs to be an adequate separation between the side surrounds and the rear surround(s), for enhanced envelopment over a 5.1 setup.
Possibilities I see with your room: Relocate the sub....find an equal or better location bass response-wise. Relocating could let you consider purchasing a different television/component stand that would be an aesthetic upgrade, wider than the width of the tv, in order to place bookshelf speakers of your choice to the sides of the tv, with the center speaker on the shelf just below the screen. No extra wires would be seen as they would be hidden behind the components of the tv stand.
The downside to this is a narrow soundstage for home theater; not optimal for multichannel or stereo music. I've seen this setup work just fine for predominant home theater movie enjoyment.
One formula for placement recommends the distance between L and R speakers be equal to the distance of the seated sweet spot to the center of this L to R speaker line (where the center speaker should be).
I can't tell from your pictures if you have enough space, but alternatively, short wires could be run and stubbed out at ear level; the right front on the other side of the fireplace and the left front the appropriate distance to the left of the tv. Bookshelf speakers could be placed on decorative shelving mounted on the walls or by the use of omnimounts.
There are a few threads around the forum supporting the use of height channels esp for those who would not benefit from expanding to 6.1 or 7.1 due to the rear wall placement of their seating. Heck, you could possibly keep ceiling mounted front speakers for that purpose if you didn't want to take them down.
Just some thoughts, good luck.
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