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i just bought a PN51F5500 and i would like feed back on what issues if any that you are having. i started this in hopes of having a thread for the F5500

when i first got my PN51F5500 I was torn didn't even know if i was going to keep it

now we just had a firmware update.


1.This firmware is for TV Model(s): LED F5500/F6300/F6350/F6400/F6800/F7050/F7010, PDP F5500

2.The version is 1102.1

3.This firmware update will improve the following:


- Improves picture quality.


- Resolves compatibility issue with Fitness Game Bike


i must say that the improvement in picture quality has solidified my choice in buying this PN51F5500 i know there will be more updates.


so here i am I have a PN60E8000 and a PN51F5500
 

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hi,


can you comment on black levels, image retention, brightness pops/hocky pops and input lag for gaming if you do on this tv. I am in the uk and their is not much info about for this tv.


last year I had many st50 TV's with banding/uniformity issues and before that had Samsung d series which had the brightness/hocky pops. I am just looking for a cheap decent performing tv without the issues mentioned above so I am looking at this tv.
 

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Originally Posted by pioneer 1985  /t/1471297/pnxxf5500-owners-thread#post_23284583


hi,


can you comment on black levels, image retention, brightness pops/hocky pops and input lag for gaming if you do on this tv. I am in the uk and their is not much info about for this tv.


last year I had many st50 TV's with banding/uniformity issues and before that had Samsung d series which had the brightness/hocky pops. I am just looking for a cheap decent performing tv without the issues mentioned above so I am looking at this tv.

if you are in the Uh checkout avforums.com there is a dedicated thread for the UK version of this set there
 

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Originally Posted by Ph8te  /t/1471297/pnxxf5500-owners-thread#post_23284598


if you are in the Uh checkout avforums.com there is a dedicated thread for the UK version of this set there

yes I am aware of that but that is for the 60inch version and going by previous years there has been performance differences between the 51's and bigger screens ie: black levels and ir so it would be nice to hear comments from you guys on the 51inch version:)
 

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Originally Posted by pioneer 1985  /t/1471297/pnxxf5500-owners-thread#post_23284680


yes I am aware of that but that is for the 60inch version and going by previous years there has been performance differences between the 51's and bigger screens ie: black levels and ir so it would be nice to hear comments from you guys on the 51inch version:)

If you take a look in that thread although named for the 60" I believe all versions are being discussed....Not sure well get much stats on the black levels as I ahvent seen one measured, the best youll do until someone calibrates or has thier set calibrated is opinions
 

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How you compare black level in light room on same material side by side f5500 and e8000.


I was in shop and watch side by side e8000 and f5000 not 5500 and 5000 was gray not black.


now this is just my opinion not gospel i did not put a meter to either one but to my eye the blacks appear nice and black on both

the blacks on my F5500 are Black and i mean black they are not Gray now if the sun is shinning right on the TV no TV can fight through that even my E8000 hates direct sun and just before sunset this happens.


the E8000 has the pro panel and the F5500 just has the real black panel if i were to move them side by side which i won't do but what i can do is put Avatar on each set and go back and forth to see which one in my opinion does better or if they are to close for me to tell the diff.

I'll have to do it at night because the viewing enviroment on room is brighter then the other

I do find that the E8000 holds up a little better in a bright room then the 5500 they are diff panels and the 5500 is more refective IMO
 

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Originally Posted by pioneer 1985  /t/1471297/pnxxf5500-owners-thread#post_23284583


hi,


can you comment on black levels, image retention, brightness pops/hocky pops and input lag for gaming if you do on this tv. I am in the uk and their is not much info about for this tv.


last year I had many st50 TV's with banding/uniformity issues and before that had Samsung d series which had the brightness/hocky pops. I am just looking for a cheap decent performing tv without the issues mentioned above so I am looking at this tv.

I was worried about Image retention as well i just replaced a C7000 and it was bad when i watched baseball those static images would take a while to fade away But i'm happy to say this 51F5500 is not bad i watched two game one on ESPN then on MLB both with tickers and scores and after i didn't see any signs of IR if i would have done that with my old C7000 i would have to swipe the TV for hours.

i did watch a hockey game and didn't notice anything popping but i was in Movie Mode with warm 2 which make the ice not so white maybe i'll try in standard mode with cool temp and see what happens.

i'm not a real hockey person more Baseball and Football.
 

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Originally Posted by bargervais  /t/1471297/pnxxf5500-owners-thread#post_23284880


I was worried about Image retention as well i just replaced a C7000 and it was bad when i watched baseball those static images would take a while to fade away But i'm happy to say this 51F5500 is not bad i watched two game one on ESPN then on MLB both with tickers and scores and after i didn't see any signs of IR if i would have done that with my old C7000 i would have to swipe the TV for hours.

i did watch a hockey game and didn't notice anything popping but i was in Movie Mode with warm 2 which make the ice not so white maybe i'll try in standard mode with cool temp and see what happens.

i'm not a real hockey person more Baseball and Football.

thanks for reply,


sounds promising on the IR/BRIGHTNESS POP front do you do any gaming on the tv?
 

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thanks for reply,


sounds promising on the IR/BRIGHTNESS POP front do you do any gaming on the tv?

i don't do any gaming
 

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here are a couple pictures i took with my cell phone please understand that the flash tends to affect the blacks and color and i don't have a steady hand as you can see it's a little blurry
20130505_004205.jpg 1455k .jpg file
20130506_173919.jpg 1532k .jpg file


the color is good and so are the black i'm very surprised for a mid teir TV


And this one i took last
20130505_002353.jpg 1951k .jpg filenight
 

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I have a Samsung PN60F5500 for a couple of days, ive noticed some dimming on CBCHD hockey here in Canada. I tried watching TSNHD (another hockey game) and didnt noticing anything. So maybe it is just the one channel? I find it suspicious though and very annoying as it constantly keeps dimming on its own, and all the eco and energy saving features are off. Seems to only do it on hockey (white ice)
 

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Originally Posted by silvervulcan  /t/1471297/pnxxf5500-owners-thread#post_23286024


I have a Samsung PN60F5500 for a couple of days, ive noticed some dimming on CBCHD hockey here in Canada. I tried watching TSNHD (another hockey game) and didnt noticing anything. So maybe it is just the one channel? I find it suspicious though and very annoying as it constantly keeps dimming on its own, and all the eco and energy saving features are off. Seems to only do it on hockey (white ice)

i just changed to NHL NETWORK Boston and toronto i do see some flashing i changed to standard mode not sure if it's the tv or the feed i see camera flashes but there is some pops going on as well. PN51F5500
 

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Thanks for confirming Bargervais, I have the same problem on the 60 inch model. I also cant figure out if it is the feed or the TV. Seems to only be the toronto boston game. I was watching the Washington+New York hockey game on HD and I don't see it as bad as the Boston Toronto Game, which I suspect it would be the feed.There seems to be some quick flashing on the Washington New York Game, but watching the white ice looking for it maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me. I havnt noticed this flashing/dimming on any other stations or when watching a movie.
 

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Originally Posted by silvervulcan  /t/1471297/pnxxf5500-owners-thread#post_23286024


I have a Samsung PN60F5500 for a couple of days, ive noticed some dimming on CBCHD hockey here in Canada. I tried watching TSNHD (another hockey game) and didnt noticing anything. So maybe it is just the one channel? I find it suspicious though and very annoying as it constantly keeps dimming on its own, and all the eco and energy saving features are off. Seems to only do it on hockey (white ice)

HOW IS THE color and the Blacks have you updated your firmware


1.This firmware is for TV Model(s): LED F5500/F6300/F6350/F6400/F6800/F7050/F7010, PDP F5500

2.The version is 1102.1

3.This firmware update will improve the following:


- Improves picture quality.


- Resolves compatibility issue with Fitness Game Bike
 

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I only have Firmware 1102, It doesnt have the ".1". The TV says I have the latest firmware version when I try to update it. There wasnt an update when I took it out of the box (had it 2-days). Is there a more recent update? If so it's not showing up for me.
 

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Thanks for confirming Bargervais, I have the same problem on the 60 inch model. I also cant figure out if it is the feed or the TV. Seems to only be the toronto boston game. I was watching the Washington+New York hockey game on HD and I don't see it as bad as the Boston Toronto Game, which I suspect it would be the feed.There seems to be some quick flashing on the Washington New York Game, but watching the white ice looking for it maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me. I havnt noticed this flashing/dimming on any other stations or when watching a movie.
i also have not seen any flashing except that Toronto Boston game i was watching the rays and the blue jays and i have not noticed any flashing at all it just seems to be hockey????
 

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I only have Firmware 1102, It doesnt have the ".1". The TV says I have the latest firmware version when I try to update it. There wasnt an update when I took it out of the box (had it 2-days). Is there a more recent update? If so it's not showing up for me.
i think thats the same one and your up to date if you go to the menu go to support then self diagnosis then picture test then ok then yes then you will see software version

T-MST12AKUC-1102.1
 

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i think thats the same one if you go to the menu go to support then self diagnosis then picture test then ok then yes then you will see software version

T-MST12AKUC-1102.1

Seems to be only hockey, well that one hockey game anyway (Toronto and Boston). I was also watching Toronto and Rays, and didnt see anything suspicious there


Yes I have the same software version as you. I can't comment on any changes as I've always had this software version. Blacks and colours are impressive to me, especially when watching Blu-Ray. Avatar in 3D was beautiful. I am going to try the settings you posted, as I have been unable to find any others online. I find standard mode is much better than movie mode. Did you use a calibration disc to get your settings or just eye balled it?
 

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Seems to be only hockey, well that one hockey game anyway (Toronto and Boston). I was also watching Toronto and Rays, and didnt see anything suspicious there


Yes I have the same software version as you. I can't comment on any changes as I've always had this software version. Blacks and colours are impressive to me, especially when watching Blu-Ray. Avatar in 3D was beautiful. I am going to try the settings you posted, as I have been unable to find any others online. I find standard mode is much better than movie mode. Did you use a calibration disc to get your settings or just eye balled it?
i posted those after watching a baseball game on MLB i have changed a little since then but see how you like them i was just messing around i have not gotten this thing calibrated and i don't think i will spend the money on this TV the color and blacks seem to me very good right out of the box right now i have it.

Standard picture mode

cell light 16

contrast 90

brightness 47

sharpness 0

color 50

tint 50/50

dynamic contrast off

black tone darker

flesh tone 0

color spacing native

white balance all 25's

gamma 0

motion off

color tone warm 1

every thing else auto
 
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