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Polk, Fluance, or BIC

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I'm gathering components for a basement home theater.
I've got an Onkyo TX-NR696 and will be building a 5.1.2 Atmos system.
I'm actually wired for 7.3.4, but can't afford to fill all the positions.
I've got positions for 2 front subs and 1 rear.
The usual, trying to not break the bank.
The ceiling speakers will be 8" Monoprice units in Backboxes.($100/pair)

But I have 3 different 5.1 speaker sets ups configured in the $1300 price range.
Polk:
S50 Towers (L/R)
S35 Center
S10 Surrounds
Dayton SUB-1500 sub

Fluance:
Reference Towers (XL8F) (L/R)
Reference Center (XL8C)
Reference bipolar surrounds
Dayton SUB-1500

BIC:
PL-28II (L/C/R)
PL-66 surrounds
PL-200 Sub

So, What's your choice?
Thanks in advance
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Out of those three? Polk by a mile. Get the S30 centre though, it can play deeper and with more authority than the dinky little 3" drivers in the S35.
I would look at the Infinity Reference R263 towers: Infinity REFERENCE 263 | 6-1/2" 3-Way Floorstanding Speaker over all the ones you listed.
Sorry, those are 3 very bad ways to blow $1300 esp. living in the US where we have far far better options available.

Firstly, what are the dimensions of your basement? Totally enclosed room or open adjacent spaces?

And is this 100% HT use, no music?

I'm gathering components for a basement home theater.
I've got an Onkyo TX-NR696 and will be building a 5.1.2 Atmos system.
I'm actually wired for 7.3.4, but can't afford to fill all the positions.
I've got positions for 2 front subs and 1 rear.
The usual, trying to not break the bank.
The ceiling speakers will be 8" Monoprice units in Backboxes.($100/pair)

But I have 3 different 5.1 speaker sets ups configured in the $1300 price range.
Polk:
S50 Towers (L/R)
S35 Center
S10 Surrounds
Dayton SUB-1500 sub

Fluance:
Reference Towers (XL8F) (L/R)
Reference Center (XL8C)
Reference bipolar surrounds
Dayton SUB-1500

BIC:
PL-28II (L/C/R)
PL-66 surrounds
PL-200 Sub

So, What's your choice?
Thanks in advance
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Sorry, those are 3 very bad ways to blow $1300 esp. living in the US where we have far far better options available.

Firstly, what are the dimensions of your basement? Totally enclosed room or open adjacent spaces?

And is this 100% HT use, no music?
Alright. This is what I'm looking for. "Your choices are bad, here's what to look at"
Room is 12' Wide (TV wall), 23' deep, 7.5' ceiling, short hallway off to one side.
Let's say 90% HT
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Out of those three? Polk by a mile. Get the S30 centre though, it can play deeper and with more authority than the dinky little 3" drivers in the S35.
I would look at the Infinity Reference R263 towers: Infinity REFERENCE 263 | 6-1/2" 3-Way Floorstanding Speaker over all the ones you listed.
OK. Those are a great deal at Harmon, and they have a refurb RC252 as well. But the surrounds blow the budget. Or does matching the surrounds to the LCR really matter that much?

Edit: Wait, I found the RS152s for $300/pair

That leaves me with $320 for a sub
That leaves me with $320 for a sub
You will want to spend at least $500. Start with monolith 10", svs pb1000pro or hsu vtf2 as entry level options.
Emotiva is my recommendation $900

T-Zero+ Towers
C1+ Center
E2+ Surrounds

For the sub SVS PB1000 Pro or HSU VTF2 would be excellent starter subs, but will stretch the budget a little.
Alright. This is what I'm looking for. "Your choices are bad, here's what to look at"
Room is 12' Wide (TV wall), 23' deep, 7.5' ceiling, short hallway off to one side.
Let's say 90% HT
This is what I'd get, here:

JBL Stage A170 towers, $360/pr
JBL Stage A125C, $120 (if you can do a 3rd A170 as a vertical center that would be ideal)
JBL Stage A120 for surrounds, $150/pr

All the JBLs have free return shipping. If you aren't happy with the A125C, just ship it back and get a 3 way center from another brand, like this one:

The remaining $700 can pay for an excellent sub like this one:

This setup would destroy any of the 3 that you listed originally, for the same money.
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I have not tried any of these. But I had the RTI-12s And with the right power they were incredible. The S series replaces the RTI. If you cant try out any of them IMO the safe bet would be the Polks. I would however go over to the polk forum and ask if you AVR could properly drive them .
A couple of really good options here. The JBL + VTF-2 hits my price point.
But the Infinity surrounds will make a cleaner install in the rear. + the VTF puts me at $1540.

Given the choice, Infinity vs JBL?
Oh! And Emotiva as well. That lands right at the Infinity price point as well.

I think I'll make room for that VTF Sub. I'll have to think about it. For $560 + 84 Shipping
Alright. This is what I'm looking for. "Your choices are bad, here's what to look at"
Room is 12' Wide (TV wall), 23' deep, 7.5' ceiling, short hallway off to one side.
Let's say 90% HT
You're choices aren't bad. It's just that there a forum darlings that are always recommended. It's up to you and only you to determine what you like. The Polk S60s are a solid choice just not at full retail. Kind of like my Kef Q750s. I really like them but I wouldn't pay full retail for them.
Get jbl 190 for fronts and any 3 way center, and a sub . Add surrounds later or a130 bookshelves.
Hsu 12” or svs 1000pro .
A couple of really good options here. The JBL + VTF-2 hits my price point.
But the Infinity surrounds will make a cleaner install in the rear. + the VTF puts me at $1540.

Given the choice, Infinity vs JBL?
Oh! And Emotiva as well. That lands right at the Infinity price point as well.

I think I'll make room for that VTF Sub. I'll have to think about it. For $560 + 84 Shipping
Given the fact that rear surrounds do a lousy 10-15% of the total HT output at best, I would not waste $300 on those Infinity surrounds given the rest of your budget. I'd just get a pair of white Polk OWM-3 for $165 from Amazon, it's of trivial importance if they "match" the front 3 or not.

If you go cheap on the (far more important) sub just to overpay for the surrounds, you will have huge regrets.
Is the 3-way center that important over the 2-way?
Given the fact that rear surrounds do a lousy 10-15% of the total HT output at best, I would not waste $300 on those Infinity surrounds given the rest of your budget. I'd just get a pair of white Polk OWM-3 for $165 from Amazon, it's of trivial importance if they "match" the front 3 or not.

If you go cheap on the (far more important) sub just to overpay for the surrounds, you will have huge regrets.
Agreed, backing off on the expensive surrounds.
I don't have some fetish about bipole speakers. It's just that, in the room, where the surrounds have to be mounted and the walking traffic, a bipole will mount better, and obstruct less than a speaker sticking out of the wall on a mount.
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I'm really on the fence.
The Infinities go deeper, 38Hz vs 48Hz, than the Emotiva
The 3-way RS263 center channel for the infinity is way more expensive than the 2-way RS252 center.
The Emotiva has a 3-way center channel in my price range.
The Emotiva towers are 2-way, Infinitys are 3.
I have S55 towers and the S30 center...but used, perfect condition. at $500. BS22 surrounds for $50, used. Either way I will always suggest used but be willing to wait. Took me probably 6 months to assemble those deals.
I'm really on the fence.
The Infinities go deeper, 38Hz vs 48Hz, than the Emotiva
The 3-way RS263 center channel for the infinity is way more expensive than the 2-way RS252 center.
The Emotiva has a 3-way center channel in my price range.
The Emotiva towers are 2-way, Infinitys are 3.
The extension range of the speakers are not important as long as they get to your crossover. You will use a cross over to your subwoofer and none of these speakers will ever be playing 38, 48 or even 60hz. You will probably crossover at 80hz or somewhere near there. So don't get caught up on the low end of a tower unless you care about how they can handle things without a sub woofer. You don't even even need towers in a room the size you're talking about, since you'll be sitting pretty close proximity to the speakers anyways.

3 way is superior.

Very best,
The extension range of the speakers are not important as long as they get to your crossover. You will use a cross over to your subwoofer and none of these speakers will ever be playing 38, 48 or even 60hz. You will probably crossover at 80hz or somewhere near there. So don't get caught up on the low end of a tower unless you care about how they can handle things without a sub woofer. You don't even even need towers in a room the size you're talking about, since you'll be sitting pretty close proximity to the speakers anyways.

3 way is superior.

Very best,
No Towers?
Not on-sale Infinity 162s are barely cheaper than the on-sale 263 towers. Almost no benefit there.
But Emotiva B1+ are 250 vs 400. A nice surprise for the wallet. But now I'm trading into another system. That brings up other questions. With bookshelves, would I still need a $600 sub?
Agreed, backing off on the expensive surrounds.
I don't have some fetish about bipole speakers. It's just that, in the room, where the surrounds have to be mounted and the walking traffic, a bipole will mount better, and obstruct less than a speaker sticking out of the wall on a mount.
Do you plan on doing Atmos later? If yes, then keep in mind that monopoles are strongly recommended as surrounds.

I'm really on the fence.
The Infinities go deeper, 38Hz vs 48Hz, than the Emotiva
The 3-way RS263 center channel for the infinity is way more expensive than the 2-way RS252 center.
The Emotiva has a 3-way center channel in my price range.
The Emotiva towers are 2-way, Infinitys are 3.
Mid-bass extension on the SPEAKERS is irrelevant during HT with a subwoofer in play.

The 2 way RC252 is smaller and weaker, so of course it's cheaper. Logically, the center SHOULD BE the biggest and best speaker in your whole system because it does up to 80% of the total HT output. If you were going with Emotiva, the extra $150 for the larger C2+ would be well worth it over the C1+ for the same reason.

If you like it loud, the Infinities would have a slight edge over the Emotivas.
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