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Well, as I suspected the DirecTiVo box I received will new a special programable chip developed to insert SAV/EAV or basically convert bt601 to bt656. There will be cost to develop the code for this, set up a run for PCBs, and the cost of the PCBs themselves. The net of it is I will be charging an additional $200, for a total of $725, to modify DirecTivo units if there is enough interest.


So, how many are interested?
 

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Well, as I suspected the DirecTiVo box I received will new a special programable chip developed to insert SAV/EAV or basically convert bt601 to bt656. There will be cost to develop the code for this, set up a run for PCBs, and the cost of the PCBs themselves. The net of it is I will be charging an additional $200, for a total of $725, to modify DirecTivo units if there is enough interest.


So, how many are interested?
i thought the cost of those boards were 100.00 and for the programmable logic array another 6.00? You mean it costs that much more to make them yourself? 725.00 a little to steep for me, especially when maybe in a year or year anda half it might not work any more, (merger) not critizing at all, just letting you know what i think, thanks
 

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I don't know how to vote, my choice wouldn't be on there. It's a very intriguing idea, but I don't think I'd pull the trigger until I've finished building the rest of my HT. I've already committed to going down the SDI road, though.
 

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Tom,

Im a couple of months from picking out equipment- but as of now my plan is to go with a digital projector, some kind of scaler like rock or leeza that takes sdi in and dvi out. hence sdi out on a dss box would be excellent for me. I have no objection to the price youre talking about.


now- is it possible to get hd-sdi out of the hdtv part? :) how about modding the panny combo to have sdi out?
 

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i thought the cost of those boards were 100.00 and for the programmable logic array another 6.00? You mean it costs that much more to make them yourself? 725.00 a little to steep for me, especially when maybe in a year or year anda half it might not work any more, (merger) not critizing at all, just letting you know what i think, thanks


I don't "make the boards" I have them made for me - so my cost is a heck of a lot higher than you've guessed. Thanks for the honest feedback.
 

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Tom,


You should post something about this in the DirecTiVO forum with an explanation of what SDI is and its use with scalers with SDI input.
 

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Tom,


I have SDI and Vigatec and I understand and appreciate its impact on my D-ILA theater. But DTivo (and I have one) does not do HD. Most non-HD DSS is not really suitable for large screens (that is clearly an opinion and probably arguable). Therefore, for me, unless I wanted to move the Vigatec into another room to support a 32 inch direct view (which does a fine job on svideo), where does SDI-out help? These are my thoughts in the context of your post---a poll. On the other hand, it is probably true ( I have not actually seen SDI out of DTivo) that it is marginally better.


Vince


Being my own devil's advocate for a second, if I had a multi-SDI Dune and a moderately sized screen, it might just be a significant valued-added modification.
 

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I would do it if it could be done to a toshiba DST 3000 , without hessatation. let me know if you will offer SDI for that unit.


thanks

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"Did you look at the Sony T60 or Phillips DSR6000? Do they both use the same hardware?"


The main board is identical, so the modification should be, too.


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(who used to work in TiVo's engineering group)
 

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Ouch! Don't watch enough or think highly enough of the programming on DSS to seriously consider it. It looks like the DVD modification is better value for my viewing habits.
 

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I'm interested (though just starting to put my home theater together. The problem with this is that I've got no idea what the outcome of it all will be. I expect I'll be using a DVD drive in the HTPC, so the only signal that would be SDI is the DirecTivo. So that's $400 for the board and $725 for the Tivo mod.


Will the result be a night-and-day experience -- especially for NFL/NHL/MLB -- compared to svideo into the HTPC? If so, I'd say it's worth it to me. If it is an incremental change -- you can see it if you are looking for it, but it's easy to forget if you aren't, then I'd say it isn't.


I guess I'm hoping there is enough positive feedback so that the mods get done and some people post their results. I'm afraid $1125 is too much for me to be a guinea pig....


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Aerialman,


Do I understand you correctly, thr Rock and Leeza output a DVI signal? And are there any PJs now or in the near future (6-8 mo) that take DVI in?
 

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Tom:


I have asked the question many times and so have many others.



What impact will the SDI modification have on DSS?


When that question is answered than I can vote


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I haven't seen it myself. But I have heard that it is a marginal, but noticeable improvement. I don't think that you'll see as big a difference as you would with DVD though. DSS just has too much compression to benefit as much as DVD does IMO.
 

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If, like me, you are using dscaler and an htpc I would hope the improvement would be dramatic--no more noise from bad analog captures. For regular scalers with high quality a/d conversion perhaps it would be less dramatic.
 

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I read about the possibility of SDI DirecTivo over in the HTPC forum, and that is where a signup is going on with regards to DVD SDI mods. There was a mention of the possibility of DirecTivo mods, but nothing more.


I literally stumbled across this thread due to an unrelated search I was doing. There is a lot of interest with regards to SDI in HTPC, especially with the new prototype card being available and the signups for the DVD SDI mods -- yet the poll for DirecTivo is over here only....


Might I suggest that a poll be run in that venue as well if you really want to gauge interest?


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I'll definately want this (definately!), but would want a testimonial or two, or at least some screenshots showing the difference. I'm currently running the output of my DTivo (SAT-T60) through a Hauppauge WinTV capture card, and am using DScaler. The image is eminently watchable - by no means too crappy to view. But, it isn't as good as the same DSS source fed through the scaler in my RCA DTC-100, and I think the problem is the noise generated by the A/D and pass through on the WinTV card. The DScaler image is noisy - it has what looks like heat-waves going up the screen.


I still use the Tivo most of the time, even though the image is inferior, because I don't want to give up the Tivo's functionality. But, I miss the superior image quality of the RCA STB.


So, I suspect there will be a big difference passing the image digitally to DScaler, but would want some proof.


Thanks!


- Dave
 
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