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Update: If you're buying new, I recommend PopBox v8 (available via popbox.com); same $130 price. It's noticeably faster and has a better stock UI than the original PopBox / PopBox 3D.


Decided to revise my kinda outdated post and updates going back to PopBox's original release date with my latest impressions. PopBox had a very rocky launch. Multiple delays, no Netflix at launch (never came), no hd audio, no resume playback, etc., etc. It was referred to as "Poop-box" by Syabas' own Werner.


I bought two units at launch, then eBay-ed them, only to re-get two later... much later, a year since PopBox's launch. What changed? Well, Syabas fixed many issues and has made the PopBox a solid streamer.


Pros:

- Price (just $130 shipped from Amazon)

- Solid HD audio passthrough (bitstreaming)

- Solid video file playback, just as with Syabas' PCH-line NMT's

- Eversion (Flash UI) for YAMJ support

- Many more Internet apps now compared to launch (CNN, Revision3, etc.)

- 3D support (SBS and top/bottom format, not frame-packed full 3D)


Cons:

- Meh native UI

- Poor internal movie/TV scraper and jukebox

- Somewhat sluggish if many titles and using native jukebox


To me, what makes PopBox a great little box now is HD audio coupled with Eversion/YAMJ. This for $130 shipped when it's basically the same box as Syabas' own PCH A-210, which costs $200 shipped. PopBox is locked-down and doesn't support community apps, but I honestly haven't found anything useful and I also own an A210.


After PopBox, I went to PCH A210 and Boxee Box, but as Boxee still hasn't fixed its HD audio dropout problems, I'm getting out. Also, the Eversion skin with YAMJ has been a huge boost to PopBox/PCH IMHO.


Syabas has just released PopBox v8 in Europe with additional capabilities (faster chip, better internal scraper, better stock UI, smaller form factor, etc.). I'm hoping it gets a U.S. release as well.

 

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I'll have at least one tomorrow(Assuming they actually ship it overnight like it shows on my status)and will have time to mess around with it Friday night.. Hopefully I can leave work early to pick it up. Otherwise I can't get it until Saturday and won't be able to play around with it until Sunday night.
 

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I have Amazon's two-day prime shipping, but if you get yours first, by all means, please post your impressions. From your earlier posts, I believe you have the C200 and also briefly owned a Dune 3.0 unit.


The A200/C200, Dune 3.0 & Xtreamer Pro/Sidewinder (w/upcoming HD audio/jukebox firmware) were the other boxes I was considering.


I'm also curious to see how the PopBox will index movies off my WHS.
 

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I ordered a Popbox with 1 day delivery, so I should have it tomorrow afternoon. I've owned several Popcorn Hour A-110's and an A-200. For the most part I've been very impressed with these products. I have used them mostly with networked storage. As long as the Popbox supports bitstreaming of HD audio formats inside an M2TS container, I will be a happy camper. My A-200 did not support this so I sold it months ago. I'm eager to play with the Popbox as I've not had a good solution for playing back my 1080p MKV files in about 6 months (sold all the A-110's last year).
 

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Damian (very knowledgeable forum member) has had the beta firmware for the C200 for a while now (so it should be available for the A200 as well) and he has confirmed hd audio bitstreaming does in fact work now. Syabas is supposed to be releasing the official firmware update shortly. As the PopBox is supposed to have mostly the same internals, I'd expect (as Werner from Syabas has himself indicated) that the PopBox will support hd audio as well.

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- See Werner's post here about hd audio.

- See Damian's articles at MediaSmartServer.net (several on Popcorn players, MKV, bitstreaming, etc.)
 

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Just ordered mine. With the free prime for students offer Amazon has going right now, I got next day shipping for only $3.99. Will mainly be used for streaming DVD ISO, some HD MKVs, and audio collection from an external HD attached to my desktop. Hopefully will be replacing that with a NAS before too long.
 

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It will be interesting to see if the shipping version includes the new SDK or the older one. Based on the delay of shipping the software I would expect that it's the new SDK since they started the port-over back in early May.


I should have mine Saturday if it ships out today and goes 2nd day air Prime.
 

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Originally Posted by Brajesh /forum/post/18908523


Damian (very knowledgeable forum member) has had the beta firmware for the C200 for a while now (so it should be available for the A200 as well) and he has confirmed hd audio bitstreaming does in fact work now. Syabas is supposed to be releasing the official firmware update shortly. As the PopBox is supposed to have mostly the same internals, I'd expect (as Werner from Syabas has himself indicated) that the PopBox will support hd audio as well.

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- See Werner's post here about hd audio.

- See Damian's articles at MediaSmartServer.net (several on Popcorn players, MKV, bitstreaming, etc.)

Thanks for the kind words.


Correct, bitstreaming is working with the C200 beta fw. There seems to be an extra push to get this beta fw into the public soon, so hopefully within a month it will be public for the C200/A200/Popbox.


I should hopefully have the Popbox delivered by this weekend or early next week at the latest (good timing since I will be off). I also just received a Dune Prime to review, so should have a few different players to spend time with
 

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Anyone know how to "bump up" an order? My June preorder states "available for shipping July 20th." I would like to join you guys in hopefully enjoying this box sooner than later...
 

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Originally Posted by jmpage2 /forum/post/18908757


It will be interesting to see if the shipping version includes the new SDK or the older one. Based on the delay of shipping the software I would expect that it's the new SDK since they started the port-over back in early May.


I should have mine Saturday if it ships out today and goes 2nd day air Prime.

I would actually be very surprised if it included the new SDK since that is not available on any of the players (as far as public avail.) They are still working out a lot of bugs with the new SDK so don't know if they would want to risk releasing a buggy Popbox.
 

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I would actually be very surprised if it included the new SDK since that is not available on any of the players (as far as public avail.) They are still working out a lot of bugs with the new SDK so don't know if they would want to risk releasing a buggy Popbox.

Ha! Come on now, we know the Popbox is going to be buggy as hell on 1st release, this is Syabas we are talking about here!
 

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Originally Posted by jackodagreat /forum/post/18908763


Anyone know how to "bump up" an order? My June preorder states "available for shipping July 20th." I would like to join you guys in hopefully enjoying this box sooner than later...

Try to cancel the order. If you can't cancel it then you're stuck, unless you want to order a 2nd one and return the other one at a later time.
 

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Any near-future PB owners planning to use a Harmony remote (H1 user here)? I haven't had a chance to look at the remote manager to see if the PB is listed (I would be highly surprised if it was). What do you think the chances are of being able to use say the A-200 remote commands for the PB? Or will we have to "teach" the Harmony the commands from the stock remote?
 

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I think it is highly likely that the A200 commands will work.


You can create a new profile for a new item with the Harmony software pretty easily, and just teach it all of the commands from the Popbox remote if needed.
 

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Any near-future PB owners planning to use a Harmony remote (H1 user here)? I haven't had a chance to look at the remote manager to see if the PB is listed (I would be highly surprised if it was). What do you think the chances are of being able to use say the A-200 remote commands for the PB? Or will we have to "teach" the Harmony the commands from the stock remote?

I have the H650 and checked the database and PB is not listed. Popcorn hour is, of course but not popbox.
 

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With the lack of dedicated buttons on the PopBox remote for 'Audio', 'Subtitle', and title/pop-up menu, I'm wondering how we'll access those functions. Maybe like the WDTV remote in which you press 'Option'. So, the 'info' button maybe, but that isn't intuitive. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
 

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I bet the discrete commands still work, I think from the CES videos the option button brought up some kind of sub-menu but have to look at it again.
 

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I'll certainly try to A200 commands first, but teaching the Harmony is no biggie either if I have to.


I'm really surprised (or not surprised considering who we are talking about) that there hasn't been anything posted on the PopBlog about them shipping now. With all the delays and fumbles, seems like they would want to get the word out ASAP.
 

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I'll certainly try to A200 commands first, but teaching the Harmony is no biggie either if I have to.


I'm really surprised (or not surprised considering who we are talking about) that there hasn't been anything posted on the PopBlog about them shipping now. With all the delays and fumbles, seems like they would want to get the word out ASAP.

We'll find out later today that they weren't supposed to ship, Amazon shipped anyway and PS, firmware/software won't be ready for another month.
Please don't return it though when it's done it will be great!



Let's hope Syabas don't turn into the new XStreamer with tons of empty promises that go undelivered for over a year.
 

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Originally Posted by Bitwize /forum/post/18908495


I ordered a Popbox with 1 day delivery, so I should have it tomorrow afternoon. I've owned several Popcorn Hour A-110's and an A-200. For the most part I've been very impressed with these products. I have used them mostly with networked storage. As long as the Popbox supports bitstreaming of HD audio formats inside an M2TS container, I will be a happy camper. My A-200 did not support this so I sold it months ago. I'm eager to play with the Popbox as I've not had a good solution for playing back my 1080p MKV files in about 6 months (sold all the A-110's last year).

It won't...out of the box.


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