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Post-Super Bowl Pricing: Here Come The Deals !!

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bigtvluvr

Discussion Starter · Feb 28, 2005

OK, let's make sure we just use MSRP as our reference point so we don't force the moderators tp close this thread.

One of the models I track is the Sony 42" Grand Wega. The lowest price I saw was about 15% below the average MSRP that has prevailed the last few months. That price was in October; it lasted maybe 7-10 days or so.

Anyway, my cousin called me that a CC near him in Dallas had the model at a price which was about 25% below MSRP for the set, and also about 10% BELOW the previous price-low set in October.

Sorry to be ambiguous but I think you can approximate the prices based on where this set has been price-wise for the most part when deals weren't being run.

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Squawks

· #2 · Feb 28, 2005

Expect this thread to be closed, just like the other thread started by gazelle. Pretty pointless thread in my opinion, as anybody with half a brain can search prices themselves and do the addition/subtraction to compare pre/post SB pricing trends.

EDIT: What really is the point of this thread? To inform others of the current, average MSRPs of sets today? To put guilt trips on people who purchased their sets before the SB? To make people who waited several more months until after the SB to get a TV more happy?

bomax182

· #3 · Mar 1, 2005

I think this is a good thread, it helps point me in the direction of good deals, I'm kind of swamped and with so little time to spend searching, this thread would really help me out!

Zedian

· #4 · Mar 1, 2005

I agree that this thread is pointless. People who have already bought their televisions shouldn't be reminded of how much cheaper they could be than what they paid.

bigtvluvr

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 1, 2005

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What really is the point of this thread? To inform others of the current, average MSRPs of sets today? To put guilt trips on people who purchased their sets before the SB? To make people who waited several more months until after the SB to get a TV more happy?

Because the price TRENDS as opposed to the specific dollar prices are important.

To create a fictional example, if a TV set has been about $2,500 give or take $200 for the last 6 months, and now all of a sudden it's $1,999 -- that's a big deal.

No, it has NOTHING to do with making folks who buy a set feel "bad." When I purchase, I'll be enjoying my HDTV set -- I could give a damn if the price 3 months later falls by 50%. Maybe I'll buy another or tell a friend -- I'm not gonna say "coulda, shoulda, woulda."

I'll also be keeping any eye indirectly on the price of cometing products like plasmas and LCD thin panels. Price pressures in 1 segment can often reveberate to our sector of the LCD and DLP RPTV's.

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jayselle

· #6 · Mar 1, 2005

I am new here, but what's the big deal about pricing? Is there something wrong with free market competition or a consumer looking for the best deal? it really is pretty silly and just plain lame in my opinion.

htwaits

· #7 · Mar 1, 2005

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Originally posted by jayselle
I am new here, but what's the big deal about pricing? Is there something wrong with free market competition or a consumer looking for the best deal? it really is pretty silly and just plain lame in my opinion.

You are a guest in someone's house. Follow this link and you will find out how they would like you to treat their facility.

Another option would be to start your own "price" blog.

harley1

· #8 · Mar 1, 2005

Seems like once a month the b&m stores run deals.

Sure the next will be a March Madness deal for NCAA basketball games.

Then in April a spring sale to tap into tax refund money.

May is Memorial day sale.

June is Father's day

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95se

· #9 · Mar 1, 2005

I bought my GWIV 5 days before the superbowl. I stopped in my local B&M yesterday (since I'm still in my 30 day thing) and found the price is $350 more than I paid. It's all timing. The prices change weekly. My particular set, which I wathed closely for months, saw it's two lowest prices (by $100+) the week between xmas and new years, and the week leading up to the superbowl.

irishrulze

· #10 · Mar 1, 2005

Prices only change that drastically when new models are coming out and retailers want to blow out the old ones.

jayselle

· #11 · Mar 1, 2005

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Originally posted by htwaits
You are a guest in someone's house. Follow this link and you will find out how they would like you to treat their facility.

Another option would be to start your own "price" blog.

Well, I understand that. I was looking for a legit answer as to why pricing is not discussed.

lostcause

· #12 · Mar 1, 2005

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Originally posted by jayselle
I am new here, but what's the big deal about pricing? Is there something wrong with free market competition or a consumer looking for the best deal? it really is pretty silly and just plain lame in my opinion.

I agree. I also realize the owners and moderators of this forum don't want pricing discussed because it might undermine the effectiveness of the advertising they sell. However, my opinion is that this does a huge disservice to the readers of this forum who are trying to learn about the things that this forum is supposed to be about, namely AV Science.

Part of the science behind buying a tv IS price. It determines what you can afford to buy, and also when is the best time to buy it. If price were not an issue, we would all have Qualias, or maybe we would all buy the highest end commercial plasma screens and just replace them every time an image gets burned onto the screen.

If you ask me, price has as much to do with what TV you buy as all of the other issues like rainbows, burn-in, SDE, etc...

It's one thing to say "Hey, call Joe at Moe's TV and tell him I sent you and he'll give you this tv for $xxxx.xx", but quite another to just discuss general pricing trends such as "last week I saw this set retailing at BB/CC/whatever, for $xxxx.xx, but this week it's at $xxxx.xx." Or maybe telling someone who's about to drop 4K on a set that can be found for 3K that he needs to look around more to avoid getting ripped off.

And no, you can't alway go by just MSRP as a general guide to what you can afford. Some sets sell for MSRP, and some often sell for substantially less. That's why keeping any price discussions to just MSRP is not an accurate way of measuring real prices.

Anyways, I'm sure my opinion means nothing, but this really irks me.

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mhock5

· #13 · Mar 1, 2005

This is a user's forum, not an advertiser's forum. If they opened it to price discussion, they'd have to let everyone in to advertise and that's all we'd see here.

tqlla

· #14 · Mar 1, 2005

Well, the only place pricing would be down after the superbowl, is in the open box aisle.

Most other items will probably rise or remain constant after the superbowl.

I'd suggest, if you want a tv before the superbowl, buy it. You have 30 day price guarantee at CC or BB

lostcause

· #15 · Mar 1, 2005

*kicks dying horse*

so, I just noticed that where I bought my tv from, prices just dropped to even below pre-superbowl levels. My tv is now selling for 100.00 less than the lowest price I had ever seen it at. The prices compared to just last week seem to have dropped by anywhere between 100 and 500 right across the board and are now either at or below pre-game prices. Is this because new models are supposed to start coming out this month? I expect stores like BB and CC to follow suit or else they will get clobbered around here.

gazelle

· #16 · Mar 1, 2005

Prices are already down over 20% on some sets since January, but the BB's & CC's can't compete with the much lower "real world" prices you can find elsewhere and on the internet at this time of year. They have to wait 30 days before they can drop prices to levels where at they are semi-competitive or it would cost them a fortune in rebates to people who bought pre-SB with 30 day price match guarantees. I also second (or third) the comments about pricing bans. Pricing is of major importance to any A/V forum, and though i agree this should not become a "get your TV at Joe's for a great price" type posting area, no one is really doing that. People are discussing pricing trends at various times and various models as the new sets are getting ready to hit the market. Old models go down in price. Anyone not aware of this should certainly be allowed to learn it here. Look at how many people still wrongfully post that prices were higher pre-SB! Any pricescan online would put the lie to that. MSRP only is a joke. NO ONE Pays MSRP!! It has no bearing on the street (or internet) price of anything. Actually, the only threads i've seen violating proper conduct in here are posted by administrators - little "stickie's" with come-ons and links to advertisers! This should not be allowed in any honest forum. These pages are PLASTERED with with ads and links to advertisers (which is perfectly proper). The Forum posts should not be infested with them. Especially since the hypocritical ban on discussing pricing structures remains in effect. This exists on no other A/V forum and any advertiser or non-advertiser on most other A/V forum sites who tries to make a commercial post or blurb in the threads quickly finds those posts removed and soon gets banned if they continue this shameful practice. Personally, i would go out of my way NOT to do business with any retailer or etailer plugging themselves.

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Tom_Bombadil

· #17 · Mar 2, 2005

My goodness, name brand DLP RPTVs going for under $2000 from a slew of dealers. First time I've seen that.

gazelle

· #18 · Mar 2, 2005

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Originally posted by Tom_Bombadil
My goodness, name brand DLP RPTVs going for under $2000 from a slew of dealers. First time I've seen that.

Yes, I would expect many of the 2004 models that were in the $4K area that are now down to the $2K area to be in the $1,500 area in a month or so. The 2005's are very nice, but many on a tight budget who couldn't even think of buying one of these $4K to $5K 2004 sets may not be able to afford the 2005 models even at $500 to $1,000 cheaper with better technology, PQ and workmanship than the 2004's when they hit, but a lot of the 2004's will be available in the $1,200 to $1,600 area by the fall making DLP HD a mass market item for the first time

bigtvluvr

Discussion Starter · #19 · Mar 2, 2005

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Originally posted by Tom_Bombadil
My goodness, name brand DLP RPTVs going for under $2000 from a slew of dealers. First time I've seen that.

As opposed to what MSRP before -- $2,400? $2,600? Or $2,200 or so?

Give us an idea of the drop.

BTW, we need to see if these prices stick -- my guess is they will, esp. with new models like 1080P coming out and newer models of 720P sets coming out, too.

lostcause

· #20 · Mar 2, 2005

example...my set, which shall go unnamed, is selling at the store which I bought it from, which shall also remain unnamed, for 1698.00. So, a random unidentified tv which was last week selling at 2198.00, and was selling before the superbowl for 1798.00, is now selling for 1698.00. Throw in the 300.00 voom rebate (if it even exists anymore) and it's 1398.00.

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