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POTC: Dead Man's Chest: "Best Image Quality of Any HD Content"

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chuckamuck

Discussion Starter · May 18, 2007

Looks like we have a real winner here, folks -- the ultimate HD demo disc:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=28121

Equally stellar reviews from High Def Digest:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/pira...beancurse.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/pira...manschest.html

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thebland

· #2 · May 18, 2007

ooooh...I can't wait!!!

krinkle

· #3 · May 18, 2007

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Originally Posted by thebland /forum/post/0

ooooh...I can't wait!!!

Disney put a ton of effort into these. Mine have been on pre-order for months, also can't wait to get them!

From DVDTalk:

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I've been reviewing these high definition formats for a while now, and have been watching HD programs even longer. And it isn't a lie, nor hyperbole, when I say that Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest's 2.35:1 AVC transfer has the best image quality of any HD content I have seen to date. The transfer was taken from the original digital sources, without any kind of intermediary. The opening scenes alone are so rich with vivid detail and bold colors that it looks as if you're simply watching the scene unfold outside your window. I know that such a description has been used for HD before, but this one really gets everything right. You can see stubble on Will's face, engravings on straps, the fine gold filigree in the sword commissioned for Commodore Norrington. Even better, the transfer lets you soak in all the hard work that went into the creature effects. Normally CGI effects look glaringly out of place in HD, but Davy Jones and his crew at times actually look like they were really there on the set looking exactly as they do in the shot. And the Kraken has to be seen to be believed. I could detect no forms of edge enhancement, polarization, or other artifacts. This is, simply put, a perfect transfer. It's the best of the best, and the disc is worth a purchase for the image alone.

From UpcomingDVDs.com:

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In short ladies and gentleman this Pirates movie gives us the new benchmark in picture quality for HD optical. Up until this point, both Crank on Blu-ray and King Kong on HD DVD were the films to beat in HD optical picture quality. I was fortunate enough to watch the new Matrix Collection HD DVD box set yesterday, and not even it rivals this Curse of the Black Pearl disc.

This was made possible with bitrates and file size beyond the capability of HD-DVD. This kind of perfect image quality is only possible on Blu-ray.

POTC: PQ above the Matrix and beyond HD-DVD.

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Xylon

· #4 · May 18, 2007

Another thread here at Blu-ray forum.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=849027

ShagMan

· #5 · May 18, 2007

Sweet!

sound dropouts

· #6 · May 18, 2007

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This was made possible with bitrates and file size beyond the capability of HD-DVD. This kind of perfect image quality is only possible on Blu-ray.

Except we dont know that...If this was on HDDVD we could compare them, but since it is ONLY on blu-ray, it could just be a really good source. Further, we only have a couple reviewers, who may or may not be biased.

BuGsArEtAsTy

· #7 · May 18, 2007

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Originally Posted by krinkle /forum/post/0

This was made possible with bitrates and file size beyond the capability of HD-DVD. This kind of perfect image quality is only possible on Blu-ray.

That of course is pure FUD. Fortunately, most people already know this guy's posting history, so most here will not likely be fooled by the FUD.

However, I have no doubt that POTC looks stellar. The source is ideal for it, and I'm sure Disney put a lot of effort into it for the release (as they should).

Ezra

· #8 · May 18, 2007

Shouldn't this be in the Blu-ray Software forum? Or will we get the obligatory posts about the Matrix here now?

Rich Peterson

· #9 · May 18, 2007

Does anyone know who authored these? Sony told me they had done at least one title for all the major BD companies. Was it them?

BuGsArEtAsTy

· #10 · May 18, 2007

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Originally Posted by Ezra /forum/post/0

Shouldn't this be in the Blu-ray Software forum? Or will we get the obligatory posts about the Matrix here now?

Good point.

HPforMe

· #11 · May 18, 2007

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Originally Posted by BuGsArEtAsTy /forum/post/0

That of course is pure FUD. Fortunately, most people already know this guy's posting history, so most here will not likely be fooled by the FUD.

However, I have no doubt that POTC looks stellar. The source is ideal for it, and I'm sure Disney put a lot of effort into it for the release (as they should).

Exactly. Nonsensical comments. Comment that it's beautiful, yes, but to assert the comparison is nothing but fuddly duddly.

wnorris

· #12 · May 18, 2007

Note that the hi-def digest reviews basically state that the PotC films and the Matrix films are of equal picture and audio quality. In this case, I would give the nudge to the Matrix being the technically superior transfer. Less disc space available, equal picture quality, plus I would hazard that the Matrix has more motion (think rain fight scene, or attack on Zion) overall. The Matrix is also an overall dark film (which PotC2 was pretty dark as well), and I think representing detail in dark scenes is one of the hardest things for any format to do well. So I would think the Matrix would be the harder encode to do.

danieledmunds

· #13 · May 18, 2007

upcomingdvds.com = upcomingdiscs.com = thebland ?

Is this the case?

MidnightWatcher

· #14 · May 18, 2007

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This was made possible with bitrates and file size beyond the capability of HD-DVD. This kind of perfect image quality is only possible on Blu-ray.

POTC: PQ above the Matrix and beyond HD-DVD.

I can smell your bullshivik from here. Why then does both The Matrix on HD DVD and these POTC films on Blu-ray equal PQ and AQ?

By the way, too bad the movies themselves stink just as bad. Hopefully the third won't be as bad.

Robert George

· #15 · May 18, 2007

Some of you guys have known me for a while, and as for the others, take this for what its worth...

My copies of the POTC movies showed up yesterday. My Matrix set showed up the day before that. I have had a chance to look at both fairly closely. The assertions made by the OP and the quoted reviews are, in my opinion, inflated and exaggerated. POTC are indeed excellent transfers and encodes, as one might expect. I don't however, consider them to be any better than any number of other high profile BD and HD DVD releases I have seen over the past few months. In fact, I agree with the above post regarding the Matrix HD DVDs. I was more impressed with what I see in that set than I am with POTC.

I will say this about the POTC discs, though. Taken as a whole package, movies, transfers, supplements, authoring, etc., this is easily the best product I have seen the Blu-ray format produce. I guess, if I was as invested in a single format as some of these people are, I'd be excited that a BD release finally lived up to the format hype as well. I'm not, and I have a full year of HD DVD and almost a year of Blu-ray on a pretty okay system as reference, so I'm not so easily "blown away" when someone finally does something right.

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donricouga

· #16 · May 18, 2007

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Originally Posted by MidnightWatcher /forum/post/0

I can smell your bullshivik from here. Why then does both The Matrix on HD DVD and these POTC films on Blu-ray equal PQ and AQ?

By the way, too bad the movies themselves stink just as bad. Hopefully the third won't be as bad.

Another HD-DVD supported thinking the Pirates of the Carribean stink

Thats unheard of.

I haven't seen POTC on blu-ray yet nor have I seen The Matrix on HD-DVD. So i'll wait to reserve my comments after I do. But from what I've read, so far one reviewer says the PQ and AQ is equal to the matrix, and others say its better.

I personally love both movies and I am actually in the minority in saying that I enjoyed All 3 matrix movies and both POTC. I will be at the theatre to see At worlds End next Friday !

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thebland

· #17 · May 18, 2007

I have both copies coming...and Matrix..We'll see them in all their 1080P calibrated glory!! Should be a good shoot out!!

kevivoe

· #18 · May 18, 2007

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Originally Posted by Robert George /forum/post/0

Some of you guys have known me for a while, and as for the others, take this for what its worth...

My copies of the POTC movies showed up yesterday. My Matrix set showed up the day before that. I have had a chance to look at both fairly closely. The assertions made by the OP and the quoted reviews are, in my opinion, inflated and exaggerated. POTC are indeed excellent transfers and encodes, as one might expect. I don't however, consider them to be any better than any number of other high profile BD and HD DVD releases I have seen over the past few months. In fact, I agree with the above post regarding the Matrix HD DVDs. I was more impressed with what I see in that set than I am with POTC.

I will say this about the POTC discs, though. Taken as a whole package, movies, transfers, supplements, authoring, etc., this is easily the best product I have seen the Blu-ray format produce. I guess, if I was as invested in a single format as some of these people are, I'd be excited that a BD release finally lived up to the format hype as well. I'm not, and I have a full year of HD DVD and almost a year of Blu-ray on a pretty okay system as reference, so I'm not so easily "blown away" when someone finally does something right.

Thank you for bringing everyone back to earth.

k

K.L.

· #19 · May 18, 2007

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Originally Posted by Rich Peterson /forum/post/0

Does anyone know who authored these? Sony told me they had done at least one title for all the major BD companies. Was it them?

Panasonic Hollywood Laboratory (Matsushita) for authoring and BD-Java programming

danieledmunds

· #20 · May 18, 2007

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Originally Posted by thebland /forum/post/0

I have both copies coming...and Matrix..We'll see them in all their 1080P calibrated glory!! Should be a good shoot out!!

I shouldn't think it will be a good shoot-out, seeing as they are different films, using different transfers and different codecs.

I am sure the end conclusion will be that HD DVD is 'visibly inferior'. I look forward to more unbiased analysis!

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