As long as you can kill external lights and completely cover windows you can benefit from the NX5 over the epson. Especially if you can zap all external light at night you'd be ok. I'd definitely dump the 0.8 screen and get a pure white or even 1.3 gain type screen instead. The 0.8 is going to work against you where you have less light on the NX5 vs the Epson.
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Practicality of NX5 for Non-bat cave
I am interested in any feedback on my situation. I currently have an Epson 6040ub and am very happy with it, but like many out there, I am thinking of my next upgrade. I am drawn to the JVC NX5 for all the obvious reasons, but I do not have a dedicated theater room (i.e., bat cave). I do have relatively good window coverings and light control, am using a 0.8 grey screen, and watch mostly at night. But I am not sure if I would be wasting money on the NX5, as my room cannot achieve the optimum lighting conditions.
Is the NX5 lower's lumens (compared to the 6040) an issue as well for my setting?
I basically have narrowed my choices down to the NX5 or wait whatever Epson releases in the future, such as a 6060ub (as I do not believe the 6050ub is enough of an upgrade to justify the cost).
I researched this forum and read reviews on the NX5, but I really haven't found opinions of anyone using it in non-bat caves (which may be the answer I am looking for).
Any input would be appreciated.
Is the NX5 lower's lumens (compared to the 6040) an issue as well for my setting?
I basically have narrowed my choices down to the NX5 or wait whatever Epson releases in the future, such as a 6060ub (as I do not believe the 6050ub is enough of an upgrade to justify the cost).
I researched this forum and read reviews on the NX5, but I really haven't found opinions of anyone using it in non-bat caves (which may be the answer I am looking for).
Any input would be appreciated.
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The AU/HU810 or the LX-NZ3 might be a better fit for that theatre space.
Those DLPs are a better fit for a room with almost no light control. It sounds like at night, @by96 can get full light control so the JVC would be great.
Thanks for the input. I see your point about the 0.8 working against me, but the screen is brand new and I don’t see myself changing it. With the Epson, I much prefer the grey to white screens I have used, even at night. I realize the JVC would be different. Maybe that is a reason to stick with my Epson until they release a new model.As long as you can kill external lights and completely cover windows you can benefit from the NX5 over the epson. Especially if you can zap all external light at night you'd be ok. I'd definitely dump the 0.8 screen and get a pure white or even 1.3 gain type screen instead. The 0.8 is going to work against you where you have less light on the NX5 vs the Epson.
I have also been looking at the Sony 295 and 325. I found a good deal on the 295 but like some of the new features on the 325. But I know that the Sonys have even less light output than the JVC.
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The 295 ES is terrible IMO. I'd keep your epson over that. It has lower light, worse contrast, no iris. Just pass on that.Thanks for the input. I see your point about the 0.8 working against me, but the screen is brand new and I don’t see myself changing it. With the Epson, I much prefer the grey to white screens I have used, even at night. I realize the JVC would be different. Maybe that is a reason to stick with my Epson until they release a new model.
I have also been looking at the Sony 295 and 325. I found a good deal on the 295 but like some of the new features on the 325. But I know that the Sonys have even less light output than the JVC.
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Good to know. Any input on the 325es? Also, I have been researching the LX-NZ3B suggested above, and I am intrigued. I know it suffers on the blacks, but it has great light output, and for the price, seems to do well with HDR. Thoughts? And thanks for your help!The 295 ES is terrible IMO. I'd keep your epson over that. It has lower light, worse contrast, no iris. Just pass on that.
The 325es is the same as the 295es just one year later with almost no changes. Hard pass. I'd be more interested also in some of those DLP lasers over the sony stuff. The blacks on the LX-NZ3B are going to be super poor. But it might be a fun projector anyway. At least during the day time and will work ok on your 0.8 screen. The NX5 will be way better if you kill all lights at night. As for HDR, the tone mapping in the NX5 is going to make it better than any of the others. But day time and partially light controlled, the LX-NZ3B will do better. If the LX-NZ3B is interesting I'd also look at the Optoma UHZ-65, and LG HU810 / AU810 as recommended above.Good to know. Any input on the 325es? Also, I have been researching the LX-NZ3B suggested above, and I am intrigued. I know it suffers on the blacks, but it has great light output, and for the price, seems to do well with HDR. Thoughts? And thanks for your help!
The specs on the LG does look better than the JVC (e.g., DCI-P3 coverage) and I like the DTM feature of the LG. I use MadVR for movies I care about, so built-in DTM is not huge, but it would be nice to have a little extra help when streaming shows. I will research the Optoma next, but since I have an LG OLED, and really like their UI, that is a selling point for me.
Honestly, I really am torn between going the laser route, which is cheaper, better for daytime use, but sacrifices blacks, versus the NX5, which is 50%+ more, has way better blacks, but the benefits may be limited in my setting (some minimal light and 0.8 screen).
Honestly, I really am torn between going the laser route, which is cheaper, better for daytime use, but sacrifices blacks, versus the NX5, which is 50%+ more, has way better blacks, but the benefits may be limited in my setting (some minimal light and 0.8 screen).
I’m a rank beginner, just got my first projector and screen setup, so my opinion is from a limited perspective. I have an RS1000, pretty much the same projector as the NX5, minor cosmetics aside. I use a 133” diagonal Stewart Firehawk G5, which is specified as 1.1 gain.
My room is not a true dedicated theater. The way my house is built, every room with lots of windows, it’s not possible to have total blackout without doing major remodeling, which is just not worth the trouble and expense. At least not worth it to me...
Anyway, I have found the picture quality to be much more than acceptable, and usually plenty bright. I would describe the quality as stunning (with the right source material), but a more experienced, jaded individual may not be as easily impressed, I don’t know. The way I have read some people complain in online forums makes me think I am not the most picky. I very much enjoy the best possible quality, but minor imperfections tend not to bother me.
Sorry I can’t compare my current setup to anything like your current one, because I’ve only ever had flat panel monitors prior to this. I live outside the city, so at night my room gets pretty dark. There is a wall between the viewing room and the kitchen, with a narrow walkway, without a door. We turn off all the lights in the viewing room, but leave a few in the kitchen on. The projector has low lamp and bright lamp modes. The bulb saver mode is sufficient for viewing, and gives a good picture. Lately, I’ve been using the high/bright mode, but it’s not absolutely required.
The image is visible during daylight hours, but really not the optimal viewing conditions. But, I expect the same would be true for any projector. Speaking for myself, I am thrilled with how awesome movies look on my projector. Usually. I bought a new iPhone, and they gave me one year of Apple TV+ with it. I don’t have an Apple TV 4K, so I tried the web interface through a HTPC running Windows 10. Now that is dark, even at night. I’m currently trying to figure out if there are any adjustments I can make to improve the picture quality, which is pretty disappointing.
My room is not a true dedicated theater. The way my house is built, every room with lots of windows, it’s not possible to have total blackout without doing major remodeling, which is just not worth the trouble and expense. At least not worth it to me...
Anyway, I have found the picture quality to be much more than acceptable, and usually plenty bright. I would describe the quality as stunning (with the right source material), but a more experienced, jaded individual may not be as easily impressed, I don’t know. The way I have read some people complain in online forums makes me think I am not the most picky. I very much enjoy the best possible quality, but minor imperfections tend not to bother me.
Sorry I can’t compare my current setup to anything like your current one, because I’ve only ever had flat panel monitors prior to this. I live outside the city, so at night my room gets pretty dark. There is a wall between the viewing room and the kitchen, with a narrow walkway, without a door. We turn off all the lights in the viewing room, but leave a few in the kitchen on. The projector has low lamp and bright lamp modes. The bulb saver mode is sufficient for viewing, and gives a good picture. Lately, I’ve been using the high/bright mode, but it’s not absolutely required.
The image is visible during daylight hours, but really not the optimal viewing conditions. But, I expect the same would be true for any projector. Speaking for myself, I am thrilled with how awesome movies look on my projector. Usually. I bought a new iPhone, and they gave me one year of Apple TV+ with it. I don’t have an Apple TV 4K, so I tried the web interface through a HTPC running Windows 10. Now that is dark, even at night. I’m currently trying to figure out if there are any adjustments I can make to improve the picture quality, which is pretty disappointing.
The thing you have to remember is that for some of the folks that frequent these boards you can tell that the act of fine tuning and tweaking is as enjoyable as watching the content itself. It's a bit of a labor of love to try and grab that next extra % of performance and you get a little bit of hyperbole in comparing setups and equipment. I'm in between the commoner such as yourself and the tweakers and leaning more towards your way. All that to say, take the complaints you see on here with a grain of salt. You have a very fine projector and screen and should enjoy it.I’m a rank beginner, just got my first projector and screen setup, so my opinion is from a limited perspective. I have an RS1000, pretty much the same projector as the NX5, minor cosmetics aside. I use a 133” diagonal Stewart Firehawk G5, which is specified as 1.1 gain.
My room is not a true dedicated theater. The way my house is built, every room with lots of windows, it’s not possible to have total blackout without doing major remodeling, which is just not worth the trouble and expense. At least not worth it to me...
Anyway, I have found the picture quality to be much more than acceptable, and usually plenty bright. I would describe the quality as stunning (with the right source material), but a more experienced, jaded individual may not be as easily impressed, I don’t know. The way I have read some people complain in online forums makes me think I am not the most picky. I very much enjoy the best possible quality, but minor imperfections tend not to bother me.
Sorry I can’t compare my current setup to anything like your current one, because I’ve only ever had flat panel monitors prior to this. I live outside the city, so at night my room gets pretty dark. There is a wall between the viewing room and the kitchen, with a narrow walkway, without a door. We turn off all the lights in the viewing room, but leave a few in the kitchen on. The projector has low lamp and bright lamp modes. The bulb saver mode is sufficient for viewing, and gives a good picture. Lately, I’ve been using the high/bright mode, but it’s not absolutely required.
The image is visible during daylight hours, but really not the optimal viewing conditions. But, I expect the same would be true for any projector. Speaking for myself, I am thrilled with how awesome movies look on my projector. Usually. I bought a new iPhone, and they gave me one year of Apple TV+ with it. I don’t have an Apple TV 4K, so I tried the web interface through a HTPC running Windows 10. Now that is dark, even at night. I’m currently trying to figure out if there are any adjustments I can make to improve the picture quality, which is pretty disappointing.
I appreciate all the comments so far. I am seeing my choice is rather clear: NX5 or a laser-based PJ (leaning towards the LG HU810P). Of those two options, the NX5 is 50% more, but I am interested in getting actual quotes from dealers. Does anyone have suggestions for dealers I can contact? (And I know the NX5 are in short supply.
As an update, after reading extensively on the LG HU810P, I am very concerned I will experience sparkle with my grey ALR screen. Seems to be common with ALR screens with the exception of the most expensive ones. I have no interest in replacing my screen, as noted above. I am coming back to the NX5 and would be interested in any leads for dealers that have offered good deals.
Most vendors have a return policy if you're not satisfied and you have to factor in lamp costs as well, as these aren't cheap.As an update, after reading extensively on the LG HU810P, I am very concerned I will experience sparkle with my grey ALR screen. Seems to be common with ALR screens with the exception of the most expensive ones. I have no interest in replacing my screen, as noted above. I am coming back to the NX5 and would be interested in any leads for dealers that have offered good deals.
Check around. There are some dealers with stock.I appreciate all the comments so far. I am seeing my choice is rather clear: NX5 or a laser-based PJ (leaning towards the LG HU810P). Of those two options, the NX5 is 50% more, but I am interested in getting actual quotes from dealers. Does anyone have suggestions for dealers I can contact? (And I know the NX5 are in short supply.
I too just recently bought a NX5 and my room isn't a bat cave. It has a couple of windows (but will be putting in automated blackout shades), so I will have light control. But it won't be a velvet pit, too depressing for me. I'm not up and running yet, so no real world experience, but just letting you know that I'm also there. I'm using a CenterStage XD screen.
Wow. Can't wait to hear back from you once you have some impressions. I really need to hear real-world experiences, like from you and Arbiter. That is why I created this post in the first place. Please keep me posted.I too just recently bought a NX5 and my room isn't a bat cave. It has a couple of windows (but will be putting in automated blackout shades), so I will have light control. But it won't be a velvet pit, too depressing for me. I'm not up and running yet, so no real world experience, but just letting you know that I'm also there. I'm using a CenterStage XD screen.
I know I can return to places like Best Buy and Crutdcfield, but they don't sell the LG HU810U. Actually, I have found very few that carry it. World Wide Stereo has it in stock, and they do have a "money back guarantee," but I am nervous about their re-stocking fee. The terms are vague and subjective to whether they think it is returned in perfect condition. I have no plans to abuse it, but I don't want to pay a 10%+ restocking fee on a $4000 item.Most vendors have a return policy if you're not satisfied and you have to factor in lamp costs as well, as these aren't cheap.
I read a lot on this thread last night:
LG CineBeam HU810P Projector with Dual Laser, 2700...
I know when you go to extremes you might catch the edge of the lens. I would recommend against a repair. Someone else tried the repair route and I don't think they ever got their unit back. Just wondering if I get another unit I will encounter similar issues or is mine really defective.
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In the end, it seems that my ALR grey screen is very high risk for sparkle, and though I have never dealt with it before (as I have never had a laser PJ), I am quite sure it will bother me. If I could find a dealer (like Best Buy) that had a well-tested return policy, I might just try it out, but so far, no luck.
Thanks for your help!
I see a lot of vague comments about people finding good deals from smaller dealers. I know about AV Science (and will contact them tomorrow) but would like some other leads. If anyone can PM some leads, that would be greatly appreciated.Check around. There are some dealers with stock.
Excellent advice.The thing you have to remember is that for some of the folks that frequent these boards you can tell that the act of fine tuning and tweaking is as enjoyable as watching the content itself. It's a bit of a labor of love to try and grab that next extra % of performance and you get a little bit of hyperbole in comparing setups and equipment. I'm in between the commoner such as yourself and the tweakers and leaning more towards your way. All that to say, take the complaints you see on here with a grain of salt. You have a very fine projector and screen and should enjoy it.
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