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problem with xbox 360, showing split screen in HD mode

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The 360 is connected to my AVR-2805 receiver in the video-2 input with the HD AV pack, which is already toggled to HD. Screen is set to wide, by the Xbox 360 dashboard. The AVR-2805 feeds into my runco pfp-11 scaler, which then goes to my sharp XVZ-10000 projector from which the image is displayed.


The screen is normal if I toggle the HD AV pack to regular TV mode though. Any ideas on why this is?
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Yeah, the image is the same on both sides, vertically stretched, horizontally compressed.



I get the same issue if I set my regular Xbox to 480p in the dashboard as well.


Also,another question I have is if setting the HD AV pack to regular TV mode causes the game that I'm playing on the 360 to use different textures than it would use for HDTV or something?
That happens all the time. When I'm playing Halo 2 with somebody I have to set the 360 back to 480p in order to get the normal split screen.
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That happens all the time. When I'm playing Halo 2 with somebody I have to set the 360 back to 480p in order to get the normal split screen.


I don't think you understand. I'm playing single player, only one controller connected to the 360 (and the xbox for that matter). When I set either one to 480p res, the screen will split in two with the SAME exact image being shown on both sides. If I set the xbox 360 to anything higher than 480p, I get a garbled screen that I can't view anything on. 480p is sort of viewable, but the image always is split in two. If I flip the switch on the AV cable to regular TV, I get a normal picture though, widescreen, and filling the frame appropriately. It's when I switch the HD AV cable to HDTV mode, that it seems to act odd. On anything above 480p it's not viewable on the 360, but even 480p is problematic as it creates a split screen for some reason. No amount of resets fixes this.
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That happens all the time. When I'm playing Halo 2 with somebody I have to set the 360 back to 480p in order to get the normal split screen.
BTW, in widescreen, it should be split side by side.
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BTW, in widescreen, it should be split side by side.
Not if you lower resolution output on the XBOX or 360. That's how I eliminated that side by side splitscreen on my both my widescreen.


For Hdmaniac, what you are experiencing my be caused by the fact that your set doesn't accept those resolutions even though you have component inputs on it. I had the same problem until I called Sony and they told me that the components don't accept a signal higher than 480i. What model and number of HDTV do you have?
Already stated it in the first post, but I think you're right.


My projector can definitely handle HD res, it's just that the device in the middle of the chain can't seem to apparently. The runco pfp-11 can only pass the HD signal onwards, through I think an RGB VGA cable. I tried passing an HD signal through a VGA cable for another device, but I'd get a garbled screen. I think the reason why that was, was because I only had three RGB cables from my projector (red, green, and blue), and the H and V cables weren't wired at all.


I wish Microsoft released an HDMI cable, that's the only way it seems I'd be able to get HD res out of my xbox 360 :( .
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Not if you lower resolution output on the XBOX or 360. That's how I eliminated that side by side splitscreen on my both my widescreen.
I realize you can fake it out and make your TV think it is 4:3, but if you have a widescreen TV, I think the best way to split it is side by side. If you take 16x9 and split it down the middle you have two 8x9 screens but with 4x3 if you split it top to bottom you get two 2x3 screens (which multiply by 3 and it equals 6x9.) So basically, you're actually seeing less side to side and you're stretching it out across your TV.
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I realize you can fake it out and make your TV think it is 4:3, but if you have a widescreen TV, I think the best way to split it is side by side. If you take 16x9 and split it down the middle you have two 8x9 screens but with 4x3 if you split it top to bottom you get two 2x3 screens (which multiply by 3 and it equals 6x9.) So basically, you're actually seeing less side to side and you're stretching it out across your TV.


That might work for some games, but it's generally easier on the eyes to have a wider view of what's going on in FPS. Otherwise my peripereal vision keeps looking at the other players side, not allowing me to focus on my side.
It's not your receiver. I'll check that runco pfp out.
Heh, not the views in Halo 2 are much narrower in widescreen than when running 4:3, you get more screen area but a different view with less visible. I'd post pictures, but despite the deceptive title this thread has nothing to do with split-split screen gaming.


hdtvmaniac, your problem sounds like a lack of horizontal synchronization on your scaler. Ill bet if you pull the scaler out of the setup it would all work fine in HD and it will certainly look much better than feeding the scaler a SD signal. Then it's just a matter of getting the scaler to work right with HD signals, and you should be able to find information on that in the Video Processors forum.
It's not your receiver. I'll check that runco pfp out. Hmmm... It seems that your scaler doesn't accept progressive signals.
Yeah, I can attest that the reciver should work fine as I use the exact same model. I didn't even think of the possablity that the scaler is only designed to accept SD sources, perhaps it has a passthough option that you can select when running HD?
It does have a pass through option, but only on the VGA input.
Then I recomend just pulling the scaler out of the loop then so you can be wowed by how much better your 360 looks when it is acutally running in HD.
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Then I recomend just pulling the scaler out of the loop then so you can be wowed by how much better your 360 looks when it is acutally running in HD.


Yup, I did that, works great. I think I'll just get rid of my scaler, probably put it on Ebay or something. It's clearly outdated, and I don't need it anymore.


Thanks to everyone for their help, I really appreciate it.
Too bad. That scaler looks real expensive.
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