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I own a Panasonic PT-AE7000 projector and was thinking to upgrade to a a 4K projector.
My screen is 120’ and the projector currently is mounted to the ceiling ~10 feet from the screen at the basement.

Which will you recommend for budget of less $3K.
Thank in advance !
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Hi
I own a Panasonic PT-AE7000 projector and was thinking to upgrade to a a 4K projector.
My screen is 120’ and the projector currently is mounted to the ceiling ~10 feet from the screen at the basement.

Which will you recommend for budget of less $3K.
Thank in advance !
Jerry
5050UB no question.
 

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Check your #'s because the AE7000 can't shoot a 120" diag screen from 10' and neither the can the Epson 5050ub. Regardless the Epson 5050 is an excellent upgrade to the panny. Describe your room in more detail (ambient/reflected light control, room size, most watched content, do you game, seating distance, etc) to give us more information if something else would work well.
 

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Check your #'s because the AE7000 can't shoot a 120" diag screen from 10' and neither the can the Epson 5050ub. Regardless the Epson 5050 is an excellent upgrade to the panny. Describe your room in more detail (ambient/reflected light control, room size, most watched content, do you game, seating distance, etc) to give us more information if something else would work well.
Minimum throw of the Panasonic is 1.37x and 1.35x for the Epson, so it should work. OP probably estimated.

The 5050 is probably the best unit under $3K since whatever someone will get a projector for, they will want to watch movies/TV even if they were intending for a purely sports setup. There is a lot more movie/TV content than there is sports. It's bright so no problem there. Only issue is DLP would behave better with sports, but the Epson can still do well.


BTW is there some sort of shortage with Epson projectors, or projectors in general? I've noticed that even some screens seem to be out of stock. Is it a manufacturing issue vis a vis China?
 

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I think everyone is upgrading their gear since the movies are closed and everyone is quarantined

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I checked the room dimensions and it’s actually between 15-16 feet from mount to screen and screen size is 120 inch.
New projector should hopefully fit as mount is fixed.
The cinema room At the basement has no windows.

I read about Optoma UHD50X, should I consider it ? As we use projector also for gaming but mostly for movies.
What about Optoma laser Cinemax p1, it’s new technology so not sure if I should consider laser projector at all :)
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If the 15' mark is true, the epson 3200/3800 and 5050 will all work and are decent for gaming

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I checked the room dimensions and it’s actually between 15-16 feet from mount to screen and screen size is 120 inch.
New projector should hopefully fit as mount is fixed.
The cinema room At the basement has no windows.

I read about Optoma UHD50X, should I consider it ? As we use projector also for gaming but mostly for movies.
What about Optoma laser Cinemax p1, it’s new technology so not sure if I should consider laser projector at all :)
Thanks!
The Epson 5050 all the way if you can spend around $3K. All the 4K DLP's have rather high lag and poor native contrast compared to your Panny. Also most have a shorter throw and no/very little lens shift. If the room is untreated for reflections (white ceiling) and you want to save some $ the Epson 3800 would be my second choice.
 
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I checked the room dimensions and it’s actually between 15-16 feet from mount to screen and screen size is 120 inch.
New projector should hopefully fit as mount is fixed.
The cinema room At the basement has no windows.

I read about Optoma UHD50X, should I consider it ? As we use projector also for gaming but mostly for movies.
What about Optoma laser Cinemax p1, it’s new technology so not sure if I should consider laser projector at all :)
Thanks!
The 5050UB has ~25ms lag, which is low enough.

Not going to go too much into it, the UHD50x is primarily a gaming projector with poor picture quality compared to the Epson, and possibly even the Panasonic. It would be a poor choice in replacement.

The 5050UB is better picture quality wise than the P1 as well. But if you're considering spending more, why not get a JVC NX5/RS1000? Among many things, it's got a dynamic HDR tone mapper, which only a handful of projectors have.

Make sure to check the load bearing on the current mount since the 5050UB or other can weight more.
 

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I checked the room dimensions and it’s actually between 15-16 feet from mount to screen and screen size is 120 inch.
New projector should hopefully fit as mount is fixed.
The cinema room At the basement has no windows.

I read about Optoma UHD50X, should I consider it ? As we use projector also for gaming but mostly for movies.
What about Optoma laser Cinemax p1, it’s new technology so not sure if I should consider laser projector at all :)
Thanks!
It's important to precisely measure the projector lens to screen distance, and the projector lens vertical and horizontal offset to screen top centre, if you intend to reuse the ceiling mount. Many projectors do not have the same vertical and horizontal lens shift of the AE7000.

The Optoma UHD50 / UHD50X, for example, have to be mounted within 13ft 11in for an 120in screen, must have the lens precisely centred on the screen and be and no more than ~10in above the top centre of the screen, at 13ft 11in.

I would also look at the BenQ HT5550 and the Optoma ZH406 (4K HDR input and HDR 1080P output).
 

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I have been eying the BenQ 3550 as my next PJ........ I have a 3 year old HT2050 with approx 20,000 hours on it now, so I trust the long term reliability of the BenQ,.....not that other brands will not last just as long. Just what I have been eying and why......
 

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It's important to precisely measure the projector lens to screen distance, and the projector lens vertical and horizontal offset to screen top centre, if you intend to reuse the ceiling mount. Many projectors do not have the same vertical and horizontal lens shift of the AE7000.

The Optoma UHD50 / UHD50X, for example, have to be mounted within 13ft 11in for an 120in screen, must have the lens precisely centred on the screen and be and no more than ~10in above the top centre of the screen, at 13ft 11in.

I would also look at the BenQ HT5550 and the Optoma ZH406 (4K HDR input and HDR 1080P output).

I tried to get more precise measurements
From the projector lens to the center Of the screen 15.5F 188
From Lens to the right middle of the screen 16 - 194
Left middle of the screen 16 - 194
Top middle screen 16.5 196
Bottom middle of screen 15.5f 185

Hope I did it correctly, which projectors will fit my room ?
 

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I tried to get more precise measurements
From the projector lens to the center Of the screen 15.5F 188
From Lens to the right middle of the screen 16 - 194
Left middle of the screen 16 - 194
Top middle screen 16.5 196
Bottom middle of screen 15.5f 185

Hope I did it correctly, which projectors will fit my room ?

OK, so we still need height of the top edge of the screen from the ceiling and the height of the projector lens to the ceiling. Finally, what is the distance from the top centre of the screen to one wall, and what is the shortest distance (right angle) of the projector lens to that same wall (assuming that the room is rectangular). We need accuracy to within one inch. Be aware that you old HDMI cable will probably not work with 4K content, and your existing receiver might not either.

Based upon what we already know, the Epson HC5050, HC4000 series, BenQ HT5550 and JVC LX UH1 will fit ( the Epson 3000 series might fit, but focus accuracy is problematic depending on the amount of lens shift required). Here's some review videos on those units:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TVSpecialists/videos

and:

 

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OK, so we still need height of the top edge of the screen from the ceiling and the height of the projector lens to the ceiling. Finally, what is the distance from the top centre of the screen to one wall, and what is the shortest distance (right angle) of the projector lens to that same wall (assuming that the room is rectangular). We need accuracy to within one inch. Be aware that you old HDMI cable will probably not work with 4K content, and your existing receiver might not either.

Based upon what we already know, the Epson HC5050, HC4000 series, BenQ HT5550 and JVC LX UH1 will fit ( the Epson 3000 series might fit, but focus accuracy is problematic depending on the amount of lens shift required). Here's some review videos on those units:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TVSpecialists/videos

and:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfreFbP8IoE

Thanks! watched the review, seems there are both great.
The Question if the pixels on the Epson are significant at 120 Inch.
 

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Thanks! watched the review, seems there are both great.
The Question if the pixels on the Epson are significant at 120 Inch.
You have a dark room and only 120 inch screen so you probably do not need very bright PJ. If you worry about not getting true 4K pixels consider Sony 295ES. All 4K pixels are physically there in reality all the time, full time. The lens is widest and brightest at 12 feet from the screen. At your 15.5 feet you are not going to lose a lot of brightness.
 
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