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PS3 1080p/24 and Yamaha RX-Vx700

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Yeap.. looks like it is a no-go for Yamaha RX-Vx700 users



Just curious if this is a problem with the PS3 and the Yamaha per se.. do other BR players (standalone) with 1080p24 have problems with the Yamaha HDMI AV amps?


Denon users (at least 2807 and 4806) seem to have no issues.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...post10618503
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...post10618428
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Curious to to whether this is a Sony or a Yamaha problem.


I would point to Yamaha however Iscan VP50 users are reporting issues too.


What are the scenarios if it's a Yamaha problem? Can these receivers have the firmware updated? How would yamaha be contacted about this problem.


HELP!
Interestingly, 24p output works fine with a direct connection (I'm using a Panasonic AX-100u projector and a Yamaha RXV-1700). But the REALLY interesting thing is, when I use a direct HDMI connection, my projector reports 24p input. Switching through the reciever reports 60p input. However, when I hot-swap the HDMI cable from the direct connection (reporting 24p input) back to my Yamaha, the projector still reports 24p input, and the picture continues to work just fine.


However, stopping the BD player and restarting it will cause the 60p report to return. Quite strange. I'll keep playing with it tonight to see if I can figure out what's going on.

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Does it work if you bypass the receiver?

I'm sure it would. I don't have that option. My 2700 switches all my audio/video.

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However, when I hot-swap the HDMI cable from the direct connection (reporting 24p input) back to my Yamaha, the projector still reports 24p input, and the picture continues to work just fine.


However, stopping the BD player and restarting it will cause the 60p report to return. Quite strange. I'll keep playing with it tonight to see if I can figure out what's going on.

Ahah! you sir .... win.


So it's possibly a PS3 display detection problem. It sees a receiver that accepts only 60hz when it actually could accept 24fps.

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I'm sure it would. I don't have that option. My 2700 switches all my audio/video.

I was just trying to get you to isolate, make sure that the tv would work on its own with the PS3.


Unfortunately I don't have any doubt about 1080p24 functionality at this time, none for me on the cheap lcd.


Seems like if the problem is that the PS3 thinks the receiver won't work (when it does) then that is something that could be addressed on the PS3 side. Hope it gets fixed soon for you.
Running my Sammy,1200 into my Ruby doesn't allow 24fps,either. I assume running the hdmi thru the Onkyo 605 would change that?? 4me?

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Originally Posted by TreborS /forum/post/0


Ahah! you sir .... win.


So it's possibly a PS3 display detection problem. It sees a receiver that accepts only 60hz when it actually could accept 24fps.

Sounds reasonable to me



Hopefully this is something that Sony can tweak in a future update.
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So it's possibly a PS3 display detection problem. It sees a receiver that accepts only 60hz when it actually could accept 24fps.
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Originally Posted by Jiffylush /forum/post/0


Seems like if the problem is that the PS3 thinks the receiver won't work (when it does) then that is something that could be addressed on the PS3 side. Hope it gets fixed soon for you.

I would hope Sony would update the firmware to allow a forced ON mode for 1080p24 for 1080p24 content as well.


But the fact that Denon AVRs have no issues so far suggests that it may be a Yamaha issue.


Let's hope to see results for other HDMI receivers.. like Pioneer's, Sony's own and Onkyo to see how this pans out.
 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...post10619409

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It doesn't seem to work with the Sony STR-DA5200ES either direct to TV no problem.

Looks like Sony's own AV amplifier is having the same issues.


So the fix may be likely from Sony, rather than from the AV receiver maker!!
And DVDO Iscan VP50 users are reporting issues as well.
Silly question, but when you tried 24fps, did you guys try a Blu-Ray disc?

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Set whether to use 1080p 24 Hz video output mode for output of Blu-ray Disc (BD) video.
http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Ne...80_update.html

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Silly question, but when you tried 24fps, did you guys try a Blu-Ray disc?

Right, "silly"
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Silly question, but when you tried 24fps, did you guys try a Blu-Ray disc?

Yes Blu-Ray direct to TV 1080p/24 works fine. Blu-Ray to AMP Sony STR-DA5200ES won't detect 1080p/24 only 1080i. If I set up 1080p/24 on the TV and hot swap it into the amp I get 1080p/24 through the amp but once I go back to the xmb it resets itself and next time I try a Blu-Ray I get only 1080i. If I bypass the amp once 1080p/24 is set I can watch a movie and exit back to the xmb it goes back to 1080i but once I start a movie it goes back to 1080p/24 no problem.

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Originally Posted by TreborS /forum/post/0


Curious to to whether this is a Sony or a Yamaha problem.


I would point to Yamaha however Iscan VP50 users are reporting issues too.


What are the scenarios if it's a Yamaha problem? Can these receivers have the firmware updated? How would yamaha be contacted about this problem.


HELP!

Yes the Yamaha can have the firmware updated. It is a simple matter of burning a CD and playing it via optical to the receiver after booting with a button pressed. There is a fw update made several months ago for it, and when I applied it it was very simple.

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Yes the Yamaha can have the firmware updated. It is a simple matter of burning a CD and playing it via optical to the receiver after booting with a button pressed. There is a fw update made several months ago for it, and when I applied it it was very simple.

How can I check, if there is a newer FW for my Yammi 2700?
so i have a question. ok im gonan lay it out. so i have a blu ray disc thast encoded at 24fps. now my ps3 can output 24fps. im gettign a tv at the end of the year that have take a 24p signal. now, i want to get that new onkyo HDMI 1.3 reciever that was announced. Deos that TV have to take a 24p signal? or does it already since its hdmi 1.3. if it doesnt will the 24p signal still go from my PS3 to my TV through the reciever? i want to hook the hdmi up to this reciever casue i want to use its dolby tru HD
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