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PS3 as my blu-ray player, no 7.1?

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I use my PS3 as my blu-ray player and I recently upgraded my receiver to a harman kardon 247. When I am watching a blu-ray, I am not getting sound out of my two back speakers. If i am playing a game, such as uncharted or resistance, I get sound from all 7 of the speakers.


My question is do I have the receiver set right? Or is this a problem with th PS3 that it can't do 7.1 for blu-rays? Hopefully it is just an issue with the way I have the receiver set but when I go to change the surround setting on the receiver, I can't. It is set on stereo and I can't change it. Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Afflicted /forum/post/12803646


I use my PS3 as my blu-ray player and I recently upgraded my receiver to a harman kardon 247. When I am watching a blu-ray, I am not getting sound out of my two back speakers. If i am playing a game, such as uncharted or resistance, I get sound from all 7 of the speakers.


My question is do I have the receiver set right? Or is this a problem with th PS3 that it can't do 7.1 for blu-rays? Hopefully it is just an issue with the way I have the receiver set but when I go to change the surround setting on the receiver, I can't. It is set on stereo and I can't change it. Any suggestions?

You're probably playing 5.1 movies. If you want those movies to be processed for 7.1, you need to set your receiver to process the audio it's getting from your PS3. I'm not sure if your receiver can process multichannel LPCM, but if it can't, then you'll be fine so long as the source material (blu-ray) is originally in 7.1. Otherwise, you'll only get 5.1.


You're getting full 7.1 on Resistance and Uncharted because those are already 7.1. The trick is that the movies you're wanting to be in 7.1 aren't already, so they need to be matrixed from 5.1 to 7.1 (by your receiver, since the PS3 won't do it). Some 7.1 capable receivers can't do this with multichannel LPCM (like my Onkyo 605), but I'm not sure about the h/k 247.


If your receiver can't matrix multichannel LPCM, you could try switching the PS3's audio output to bitstream which limits the audio formats, but would allow you to up-matrix to 7.1.
Thanks for the quick reply. Now to find out if this receiver can do it or not.

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Originally Posted by confidenceman /forum/post/12803723


You're probably playing 5.1 movies. If you want those movies to be processed for 7.1, you need to set your receiver to process the audio it's getting from your PS3. I'm not sure if your receiver can process multichannel LPCM, but if it can't, then you'll be fine so long as the source material (blu-ray) is originally in 7.1. Otherwise, you'll only get 5.1.


You're getting full 7.1 on Resistance and Uncharted because those are already 7.1. The trick is that the movies you're wanting to be in 7.1 aren't already, so they need to be matrixed from 5.1 to 7.1 (by your receiver, since the PS3 won't do it). Some 7.1 capable receivers can't do this with multichannel LPCM (like my Onkyo 605), but I'm not sure about the h/k 247.


If your receiver can't matrix multichannel LPCM, you could try switching the PS3's audio output to bitstream which limits the audio formats, but would allow you to up-matrix to 7.1.

Do you know if the Denon AVR-2307CI can process LPCM?

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Originally Posted by Afflicted /forum/post/12803790


Thanks for the quick reply. Now to find out if this receiver can do it or not.
This response from "lparsons" in the Receivers section may shed some light on your dilemma.


It seems only certain manufacture dates are updated with firmware that allows the 247 to apply processing to PCM signals and matrix 7.1.

Run a search over in that section and you'll find a wealth of information related to your receiver. Good luck!
your ps3 audio settings are set to pcm, instead of bit stream. i know this sounds dumb, but it's easy to do/forget. also make sure you select the lpcm track on the blu ray dvd. let us know if you get it to work

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Originally Posted by thebigdaddye /forum/post/12804156


your ps3 audio settings are set to pcm, instead of bit stream. i know this sounds dumb, but it's easy to do/forget. also make sure you select the lpcm track on the blu ray dvd. let us know if you get it to work

Yeah, switching it to bit stream fixed it! I think after running all of the wires and trying to hide them fried my brain for a minute. Thanks again for the replies. Going to do a little reading from the link above as I had no idea this receiver did everything that it does.
you gotta make sure under "Sound settings" on the PS3, the 7.1 channels are selected

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Originally Posted by _Avarice_ /forum/post/12804128

This response from "lparsons" in the Receivers section may shed some light on your dilemma.


It seems only certain manufacture dates are updated with firmware that allows the 247 to apply processing to PCM signals and matrix 7.1.

Run a search over in that section and you'll find a wealth of information related to your receiver. Good luck!


That isn't so much what my problem was. I don't currently own any blu-rays that are 7.1 but Resistance and Uncharted are games that do support 7.1. Those played in 7.1 just fine it was the ones that only supported the 5.1 that I had the problem with. But switching it to bit stream took care of it. So many settings, so little time to set them!

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Originally Posted by Afflicted /forum/post/12811258


That isn't so much what my problem was. I don't currently own any blu-rays that are 7.1 but Resistance and Uncharted are games that do support 7.1. Those played in 7.1 just fine it was the ones that only supported the 5.1 that I had the problem with. But switching it to bit stream took care of it. So many settings, so little time to set them!

Cool. Just remember to switch back to LPCM for 7.1 material! Bitstream will only give you a 5.1 signal (which your AVR matrixes to 7.1) instead of an original 7.1 signal.

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Originally Posted by confidenceman /forum/post/12811377


Cool. Just remember to switch back to LPCM for 7.1 material! Bitstream will only give you a 5.1 signal (which your AVR matrixes to 7.1) instead of an original 7.1 signal.

Thanks again for the help. I only have one more question (for now of course) not dealing with the PS3. I keep reading about firmware updates for the reciever but am unsure how I would go about doing this once the update is realeased from harman kardon. Obviously a connection from the computer to the receiver is necessary but with what kind of cord? And I'm assuming that once released the update will be available from the website? Obviously new to this!
Unfortunately, even though LPCM 7.1 is listed as one of its features, the Harman Kardon 247 cannot actually pass a 7.1 LPCM signal. All 7.1 LPCM signals (I believe) are only passed as 5.1 signals. It won't be able to pass 7.1 until a 'supposed' firmware update is released (which, by the way, will be done via the rs-232 port on the back of the unit). You can read more about the 247 here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=868358

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Originally Posted by Afflicted /forum/post/12811878


Thanks again for the help. I only have one more question (for now of course) not dealing with the PS3. I keep reading about firmware updates for the reciever but am unsure how I would go about doing this once the update is realeased from harman kardon. Obviously a connection from the computer to the receiver is necessary but with what kind of cord? And I'm assuming that once released the update will be available from the website? Obviously new to this!

firmware updates to receivers must usually be done in a service facility.
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