Ps3 Remote Control Issues Over!!! Bluetooth This!!!

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mastermaybe

Discussion Starter · Jan 23, 2008

Please forgive the caps, I'm EXCITED.

ok, I realize some may have worked around this issue by instituting the old nyko ps2 remote with the wired ir, but nyko has an exclusive unit to be used with the ps3 that has an ir built right into the small usb stick (looks like a small memory drive) that of course sits right in your ps3 usb port.

It took me all of 5 minutes for my onkyo 805 remote to "learn" all of the commands off of the nyko remote ....including the cursor commands that navigate you through the entire ps3 home menu screen. I'm sure any other self-respecting rc can learn the commands just as efficiently.

It works perfectly, i just wish I could get a "ps" button on it to power the system on and off.

it cost me 14.99, a tiny price to pay to alleviate the bs of using that damn game controller.

http://www.nyko.com/nyko/products/?i=113

james

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BillKen

· #2 · Jan 23, 2008

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=946674

www.schmartz.com

His solution is slightly more elegant and he does offer an on/off version.

Nothing wrong with that Nyko version if it works for you though - I wanted a version that didn't have the big dongle sticking out of the front of my PS3 and I wanted on/off.

Rhoq

· #3 · Jan 23, 2008

Found the official Sony Bluetooth remote in stores before seeing the Nyko one. It sits next to my Harmony 880. LOL

Shape

· #4 · Jan 23, 2008

Yeah, the lack of a power button still annoys me. But all-in-all, $15 isn't so much to pay.

What I'd really like to do is buy a PS3 bluetooth remote, tear it apart and interface an AVR micro controller and IR receiver with it.

Then I could just put the bluetooth remote/IR receiver anywhere in line of sight. And I'd have all the blu-ray buttons available.

And I'd be able to turn it on and off.

mastermaybe

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 23, 2008

I was going to ask how you learned the commands off the sony blutetooth remote, but you have a harmony that must already "have" them preprogrammed? Still, even with the harmony, how does it send the ir command to the ps3? Or is this particular harmony bluetooth equipped?

or are you joking that you can't use your harmony for the ps3?

??????????????

mastermaybe

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by BillKen /forum/post/12905436

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=946674

www.schmartz.com

His solution is slightly more elegant and he does offer an on/off version.

Nothing wrong with that Nyko version if it works for you though - I wanted a version that didn't have the big dongle sticking out of the front of my PS3 and I wanted on/off.

ok, wait a minute. Maybe I'm confused here. You do understand that the ir recevier plugs into the front of the ps3 and is smaller than most memory sticks? there's no wires or tape involved anywhere, which is what i gathered from a brief scan of this other gentleman's set-up.

like i said, maybe I'm mistaken.

james

tgable

· #7 · Jan 23, 2008

The Nyko works great. No on/off has never bothered me, I have to get up to put the movie on and that turns on the system. The dongle does make your controller move to port 2, which is the biggest pain.

BillKen

· #8 · Jan 23, 2008

His solution also plugs into a USB port - but it's a tiny square that is the same finish as the PS3 itself and fits right in with the PS3.

The wire is routed under the PS3 and hidden - the only portion of the wire that's visible is up the side of the PS3 near the on/off button where the thin copper strip is taped over the on/off switch and then covered with a black decal with the same on/off graphic as the PS3.

Like I said - I looked at the Nyko before deciding on the Schmartz version and no on/off was a deal breaker for me. I need a solution my wife can use and not bug me about when I'm at work.

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mastermaybe

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by BillKen /forum/post/12905597

His solution also plugs into a USB port - but it's a tiny square that is the same finish as the PS3 itself and fits right in with the PS3.

The wire is routed under the PS3 and hidden - the only portion of the wire that's visible is up the side of the PS3 near the on/off button where the thin copper strip is taped over the on/off switch and then covered with a black decal with the same on/off graphic as the PS3.

Like I said - I looked at the Nyko before deciding on the Schmartz version and no on/off was a deal breaker for me. I need a solution my wife can use and not bug me about when I'm at work.

Fair play. I felt like I unearthed a crate of gold bars when I "discovered" this thing.

Now I feel like Columbus who "discovered" America...after American Indians, the Vikings and countless others.

james

BillKen

· #10 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by tgable /forum/post/12905579

The Nyko works great. No on/off has never bothered me, I have to get up to put the movie on and that turns on the system. The dongle does make your controller move to port 2, which is the biggest pain.

The same happens to me with the Schmartz version if I turn the PS3 on with it rather than the controller - I still have to hit the PS button (when a game loads) and reassign the controller to the first position. Kind of a pain but oh well.

Rich Davenport

· #11 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by Shape /forum/post/12905472

Yeah, the lack of a power button still annoys me. But all-in-all, $15 isn't so much to pay.

What I'd really like to do is buy a PS3 bluetooth remote, tear it apart and interface an AVR micro controller and IR receiver with it.

Then I could just put the bluetooth remote/IR receiver anywhere in line of sight. And I'd have all the blu-ray buttons available.

And I'd be able to turn it on and off.

Someone has done just that (and is looking for interested buyers).

See IR4PS3

I think it's sort of a mod kit for the bluetooth remote. The bluetooth remote becomes an IR receiver and forwards the commands over bluetooth.

BillKen

· #12 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by mastermaybe /forum/post/12905621

Fair play. I felt like I unearthed a crate of gold bars when I "discovered" this thing.

Now I feel like Columbus who "discovered" America...after American Indians, the Vikings and countless others.

james

lol - sorry - I didn't mean to burst your bubble.

Regardless - it's nice that we have some alternatives now rather than being tethered to that stupid bluetooth sillyness Sony thought was such a great idea. It still boggles my mind that someone at Sony never considered how that decision would affect those users with universal remotes.

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mastermaybe

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by tgable /forum/post/12905579

The Nyko works great. No on/off has never bothered me, I have to get up to put the movie on and that turns on the system. The dongle does make your controller move to port 2, which is the biggest pain.

I never thought about bumping the controller over. I have the 80gig with 4 usb's, so it's a non-issue.

that sux 4 u though, sorry.

james

mastermaybe

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by BillKen /forum/post/12905656

lol - sorry - I didn't mean to burst your bubble.

Regardless - it's nice that we have some alternatives now rather than being tethered to that stupid bluetooth sillyness Sony thought was such a great idea. It still boggles my mind that someone at Sony never considered how that decision would affect those users with universal remotes.

I have a friend of a friend who's "higher" up at sony, and he makes no qualms about their "initiative" to "innovate" and implement technology that they think is "forward-thinking", even if it's ridiculously proprietary, or even self-limiting in some cases.

yeah, no *hit.

james

BillKen

· #15 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by mastermaybe /forum/post/12905660

I never thought about bumping the controller over. I have the 80gig with 4 usb's, so it's a non-issue.

that sux 4 u though, sorry.

james

You haven't had any issues with games wanting the controller to be on 1?

My understanding is if you turn on the game WITH your controller - then it takes spot #1 - so no issue - but if you turn on the PS3 at the unit itself (or like me with my PS3IR unit) then whatever is plugged into your USB ports takes spot #1 and your controller gets bumped down the line until you reassign it.

I know for me UT3 won't do a thing unless my controller is assigned to the #1 position. It's a non-issue for me mostly since I know how to reassign the controller (or if I use the controller to turn on the PS3) and I'm the only gamer in my house - when my wife uses the PS3 it's only for a movie and the controller isn't used so it doesn't matter that my PS3IR is assigned to the number 1 slot.

Shape

· #16 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by mastermaybe /forum/post/12905723

I have a friend of a friend who's "higher" up at sony, and he makes no qualms about their "initiative" to "innovate" and implement technology that they think is "forward-thinking", even if it's ridiculously proprietary, or even self-limiting in some cases.

yeah, no *hit.

I have 3 Sony devices in my Home Theater.

All of them have control systems that are alternate to IR.

None of them are compatible!!

My Sony receiver uses S-Link control to daisy chain multiple devices together for control. It also has IR. No HDMI. No bluetooth.

My Sony KDS-60A3000 uses HDMI control to turn HDMI attached devices on and off. It also has IR. No S-Link. No bluetooth.

My Sony PS3 has Bluetooth for control. No IR. No S-Link. It has HDMI, but no HDMI control!

Innovation is great. But I'd really like them to stick with one particular innovation for a few years, thanks. You are supposed to be able to purchase all of your devices from the same manufacturer in order to ensure that they all work well together, right? So much for that.

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AmigaDude

· #17 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by mastermaybe /forum/post/12905660

I never thought about bumping the controller over. I have the 80gig with 4 usb's, so it's a non-issue.

that sux 4 u though, sorry.

I know how you feel "Columbus"

since I just saw this last night myself, and got excited -- even though I have the BR remote. Somewhere around here...

I'm still trying to understand exactly what the schmartz solution really looks like, since the photos are uh scratchy? Sounds like a promising compromise though.

Oh yes, I think you missed the point and your 4 usb ports don't change things. My interpretation is that the first usb thing plugged in when the PS3 starts ( in this case the IR device ) becomes logical controller #1. Some games (single player) assume that the device #1 is THE controller to listen to. So, you have to use the controller to reassign itself to the #1 spot.

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BillKen

· #18 · Jan 23, 2008

I totally agree Shape.

There's nothing wrong with Bluetooth technology - it has it's uses and place - but that place isn't in a unit that's designed to be a media center and blu ray player (in addition to being a game console). Using bluetooth for the PS3 was a stupid stupid idea on Sony's part.

BillKen

· #19 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by AmigaDude /forum/post/12905870

I know how you feel "Columbus"

since I just saw this last night myself, and got excited -- even though I have the BR remote. Somewhere around here...

I'm still trying to understand exactly what the schmartz solution really looks like, since the photos are uh scratchy? Sounds like a promising compromise though.

Oh yes, I think you missed the point and your 4 usb ports don't change things. My interpretation is that the first usb thing plugged in when the PS3 starts ( in this case the IR device ) becomes logical controller #1. Some games (single player) assume that the device #1 is THE controller to listen to. So, you have to use the controller to reassign itself to the #1 spot.

Amiga dude - imagine a tiny shiny black square (same finish as the PS3) that's about a half inch square and about a half inch deep with a usb plug on the back and that's what the PS3IR looks like. It totally integrates into the PS3 - like it came with it - which was important to me.

Rhoq

· #20 · Jan 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by mastermaybe /forum/post/12905483

I was going to ask how you learned the commands off the sony blutetooth remote, but you have a harmony that must already "have" them preprogrammed? Still, even with the harmony, how does it send the ir command to the ps3? Or is this particular harmony bluetooth equipped?

or are you joking that you can't use your harmony for the ps3?

??????????????

It's no joke at all. The Harmony remotes use IR. PlayStation 3 is Bluetooth - no IR receiver. The Harmony has no way of communicating with the PS3 without an IR USB dongle.

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