[wnorris]

Is this further proof of the PS3's slow sales:

http://www.playstatic.com/news/259


EB Games and Gamestop is giving $100 off the purchase of a PS3 if you trade in your PS2 at purchase (and a 2nd controller, and a memory card). I think the normal price is about $60 in trade for all this.


Isn't it odd that retailers are already having to offer discount incentives to get PS3 inventories moving? Isn't this supposed to be a hot item?

 

[joshd2012]

I guess Xbox 360 isn't selling well either, then:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=117250


Makes getting a PS3 very tempting for me.

 

[xbdestroya]

Oh man, I guess proportionally, 360 must be selling even worse then! I mean, we're talking a 25%-33% discount on the 360 vs a 17%-20% discount on the PS3.

(Back to the drawing board wnorris!)

 

[wnorris]



Quote:
Originally Posted by joshd2012 /forum/post/0


I guess Xbox 360 isn't selling well either, then:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=117250


Makes getting a PS3 very tempting for me.

Well, the 360 has been out for a full year, not a month and a half. From what I can find on other MB, the Xbox deal also is just for the Xbox and 1 controller. In addition to $100 off, they also throw in a copy of Gears of War.

 

[SteroMAdMAn]



Quote:
Originally Posted by wnorris /forum/post/0


Is this further proof of the PS3's slow sales:

http://www.playstatic.com/news/259


EB Games and Gamestop is giving $100 off the purchase of a PS3 if you trade in your PS2 at purchase. I think the noraml price is about $60 in trade for a PS2.


Isn't it odd that retailers are already having to offer discount incentives to get PS3 inventories moving? Isn't this supposed to be a hot item?

If you quote Sony it is.

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Sto...1833.15034.htm

Quote:
GI: Are you surprised that Microsoft has met their sales numbers of 10 million? What do you think of the early acceptance of Wii and their sales?


Dille: I'm not sure if they had gone to 10 million or if they had announced that they had. I know a lot of people were wondering if they would ever get there. I think initially, they're bravado speech was: We're going to get to 10 million before they ship. And then it was: We're going to get to 10 million by the time the year is over. I haven't seen a new announcement from them, but what we do pay attention to is that month in, month out, the PlayStation 2 continues to outsell Xbox 360. I think you see the consumers voting with their wallets on the PlayStation brand. But also, if people want to go out and buy a 360, their stacked pretty high at retail and yet, six-year-old technology is outselling it. I also think there's another trend going on. Every Sunday in the paper, there's a new deal with a free controller or a free game or $100 off all discounting the 360. I don't think you take those measures if you're selling as expected.

 

[SteroMAdMAn]

For being 2 months into launch and have to motivate buyers with these kind of deals sure is sad. MS sure didn't have to do this 2 months into their launch.

 

[wnorris]



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Originally Posted by xbdestroya /forum/post/0


Oh man, I guess proportionally, 360 must be selling even worse then! I mean, we're talking a 25%-33% discount on the 360 vs a 17%-20% discount on the PS3.

(Back to the drawing board wnorris!)

So you admit that they are needing to discount the PS3 less than two months in?

 

[xbdestroya]

People, this has nothing to do with 'slow sales' for these new systems. C'mon, don't you guys understand the industry?


This has everything to do rather with collecting some used systems. EB Games resells these things for *well* over the credit they're giving you towards the new purchase. Why would EBGames not want to give you credit for a PS3 if it ends up netting them a greater amount? Hell - they were pushing something similar when they were taking pre-orders for the damn thing.


And they're throwing in Gears of War for the 360? So with a core system we're talking about 33% off, and a free $60 game. I mean, I'm certainly not going to bother saying that 360 (and Gears of War) demand has fallen through the floor, but I swear to you with the conclusions being drawn here, if I did it would certainly be in the vein.


(A 'supposedly' blockbuster game that's been out for two months, thrown in for free along with a $100 credit?)

Yeah - but I don't. Because I understand that EB's not now, and not ever, doing anything that's not squarely going to make them more money than the alternative.

 

[wnorris]



Quote:
Originally Posted by SteroMAdMAn /forum/post/0


For being 2 months into launch and have to motivate buyers with these kind of deals sure is sad. MS sure didn't have to do this 2 months into their launch.

I think it also says something about the inventories of PS3's that EB has stockpiled now. If the system was even coming close to selling out shipments, these discounting measures wouldn't be in place.


I guess it does tell us that the PS3 has fixed its supply problem.

 

[jwv651]



Quote:
Originally Posted by joshd2012 /forum/post/0


I guess Xbox 360 isn't selling well either, then:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=117250


Makes getting a PS3 very tempting for me.

Thanks for the info...that a great deal.

 

[Twehttam]

I see 60 gigers all the time. It's the darn 20 gig that I can't find!

 

[xbdestroya]



Quote:
Originally Posted by wnorris /forum/post/0


I think it also says something about the inventories of PS3's that EB has stockpiled now. If the system was even coming close to selling out shipments, these discounting measures wouldn't be in place.

And... why wouldn't they be? This "discount" nets EB more money; low demand, high demand - they would do it all the same.

 

[wnorris]



Quote:
Originally Posted by xbdestroya /forum/post/0


People, this has nothing to do with 'slow sales' for these new systems. C'mon, don't you guys understand the industry?


This has everything to do rather with collecting some used systems. EB Games resells these things for *well* over the credit they're giving you towards the new purchase. Why would EBGames not want to give you credit for a PS3 if it ends up netting them a greater amount? Hell - they were pushing something similar when they were taking pre-orders for the damn thing.

They are giving $100 credit for a used PS2, controller, memory card (sells for $90, $10, and $5). So they are giving you $100 credit for something they sell for for $105. If that is your idea of "well" over credit, I'm glad you aren't my financial manager. It is "well" over when they pay $60, but it is almost cost @ $100 (they actually loose because any bum card, controller, or PS3 they receive nets them a loss when it is returned; which is their reasoning for buying at $60 in the first place). Basically EB is giving up all their profit in a used PS2 + accessories to try to get you to buy a PS3.

 

[jwv651]

In the nutshell...PS3's are collecting dust...they are to expensive for many young gamers. I am starting to think Sony might be in trouble. Everyone that I talk to in the retail business tells me the same thing they cost to much and gamers don't care about BD. We meaning us on this forum are the minority...we buy everything. I personally love my PS3 for BD but feel the PS3 might be in big trouble...which in turn means Sony may have messed up.

 

[xbdestroya]



Quote:
Originally Posted by wnorris /forum/post/0


They are giving $100 credit for a used PS2, controller, memory card (sells for $90, $10, and $5). So they are giving you $100 credit for something they sell for for $105. If that is your idea of "well" over credit, I'm glad you aren't my financial manager.

Uh, have you ever been in an EBGames? Those used items are going to cost you more than that...


And with XBox, let's do the math:


One XBox, one controller. I'll give a more realistic $110 and $20.


So for $130, they're giving you $160 worth of stuff, straight up. And one of those free things, is probably something you would have paid the full $60 for anyway if enticed into the system otherwise; their #1 top-selling game. You tell me wnorris, desperate? I mean I don't think so, but with your worldview I don't see how you could reach a different conclusion...

 

[jwv651]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Twehttam /forum/post/0


I see 60 gigers all the time. It's the darn 20 gig that I can't find!

Thats because of the $100 difference...the 60Gb is to costly for the average consumer...plus Sony loses more money on the 20gb than the 60gb meaning they will ship more 60's over the 20's.

 

[ckelly33]

I went into my local Wal-Mart today and they had so many 60gb PS3's they had filled the PS3 section, half of the X360 section and ALL of the Wii section. I have no idea how the competitors are selling, but PS3's aren't going anywhere fast. I have never even seen a Wii on the shelves and I didn't see a premium 360 on the shelf in January of last year either (same point in sales cycle as PS3 is in now).

 

[joshd2012]

Sold out at Amazon... still. Can't be doing too poorly.

 

[jwv651]

In stock at CC BB Target Walmart Gamestop in the Chicago area...it's a shame the PS3 is a great little unit...and only to get better. Sony just priced it out of the market.

 

[Subotnik]

Most people, when trading in their old console, also trade in their games. The store makes a hefty profit off of those. They also tend to buy new games, which the store will also profit on.


It also stirs up interest, gets potential customers into their stores instead of Walmart, and can reignite the gamer spark in those who had an old console but stopped playing.