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Can someone please explain the issue(s) with 720p playback .


I have a native Sony wega 720p set - what is the correct settings to get best picture quality on BD playback?


I have heard it does not suport 720p even though it detected resolution of my TV as 720p movies will play at 480p - in spite of this does the playback default to 1080i automaticaly or must I set the output in the menu to be 1080i ??? Or is thi like the Toshiba HD-A1 where you must set the picture at 1080i at alll times etc?


Is there now a firmware upgradethat fixes this like Toshibas 2.0?


Iam really trying to give BR a shot but this is most confusing.
 

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Simply, PS3 lacks a working scalar (on the other hand, Toshiba had a poor, but working scalar that was eventually fixed by a firmware update). If will not output 1080P BD movies in 720P. It will not output 720P games in 1080i. In your case, you need to set 1080i as well as 720P as valid resolutions in your PS3 setup. Then BD movies will be output as 1080i and then scaled to 720p within your TV. Games in 720p will be output as 720p and displayed by your TV in native 720p resolution.
 

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That's about right, but if you want PS3 to render 1080p-capable games in 720p (since your display is 720p, not much point in sending the signal as 1080/60i), you need to change the display settings to remove 1080i when you play 1080p-capable games. This is what I do.


I don't need a scaler (I'll let my TV scale if necessary) but I do hope I don't have to keep changing settings. It will be great if Sony can allow me to select different resolution preferences for games and Blu-ray playback.


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Originally Posted by gand41f /forum/post/0


That's about right, but if you want PS3 to render 1080p-capable games in 720p (since your display is 720p, not much point in sending the signal as 1080/60i), you need to change the display settings to remove 1080i when you play 1080p-capable games. This is what I do.


I don't need a scaler (I'll let my TV scale if necessary) but I do hope I don't have to keep changing settings. It will be great if Sony can allow me to select different resolution preferences for games and Blu-ray playback.


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gandalf

no you dont have to do that. it auto does it. it sets all my games to 720p and then the blue ray to 1080i. when setting up for the 1st time it does a check of your tv and auto detects the best settings.
 

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Simply, PS3 lacks a working scalar (on the other hand, Toshiba had a poor, but working scalar that was eventually fixed by a firmware update). in 720p will be output as 720p and displayed by your TV in native 720p resolution.

The PS3 scales in software, so its scaling abilities are also corrected via firmware updates. And right now I'm having no problems displaying content in 1080i or 720p.
 

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no you dont have to do that. it auto does it. it sets all my games to 720p and then the blue ray to 1080i. when setting up for the 1st time it does a check of your tv and auto detects the best settings.

Do you have any 1080p-native games? My understanding is that if you have both 720p and 1080i selected, then 1080p-native games will sent to the TV in 1080i. For 720p games, it will be 720p even if you have 1080i selected.


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From what I've read, the PS3 is completely unable to output games in 1080i, so I'm not sure how it could do what you say G.

Any games that render at 1080p are going to be transmited and displayed in 1080i on non-1080p capable sets. There's no issue whatsoever in this regard; what exactly are you reading?
 

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The PS3 scales in software, so its scaling abilities are also corrected via firmware updates. And right now I'm having no problems displaying content in 1080i or 720p.

Your TV must take both 1080i and 720p without problems. Unfortunately many TVs do not accept 720p input. My projector doesn't do 720p, only 1080i. Most of PS3 games are 720p. These do not scale to 1080i, instead they get displayed as 480p which is no better than what PS2 can do. It's also been reported that if your display cannot display 1080i, but only 720p, then BD movies will be output as 480p.
 

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Any games that render at 1080p are going to be transmited and displayed in 1080i on non-1080p capable sets. There's no issue whatsoever in this regard; what exactly are you reading?

Below is what I was thinking about, obviously. I assumed that that also applied to 1080p games. I thought it was a 1080i issue, not a scaling issue.

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Your TV must take both 1080i and 720p without problems. Unfortunately many TVs do not accept 720p input. My projector doesn't do 720p, only 1080i. Most of PS3 games are 720p. These do not scale to 1080i, instead they get displayed as 480p which is no better than what PS2 can do. It's also been reported that if your display cannot display 1080i, but only 720p, then BD movies will be output as 480p.
 

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@Capek: Gotcha. Yeah, the big drama on the scaler front is that the popular 720p games out at the moment go to 480p on older CRT RP HDTVs, as many of those don't accept a 720p signal.


@Xradman: No HDTV (that I know of at least) doesn't accept a 1080i signal, so there's no issue on the BD playback front. It's strictly an issue centering around 720p games and older HD sets.
 

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xbd: thanks...I've only bought 1080p games so far so actually I'm annoyed (mildly) like I said above...but no big deal, as my 1366x768 LCD can take both 1080i and 720p...I'm hoping to upgrade to 1080p soon so I can just set everything to 1080p and be done with it.



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@Xradman: No HDTV (that I know of at least) doesn't accept a 1080i signal, so there's no issue on the BD playback front. It's strictly an issue centering around 720p games and older HD sets.

Not quite. You still have a problem if have 720p display. To quote Jayselle


Most 720 display convert 1080i content by de-interlacing to 540p. It the up-scales 540p to 720p. So our displays are getting a 540p up-scaled image.


If the player does the scaling it can actually convert 1080p to 720p without interlacing. Thus our display gets a true 720p image not up-scaled. Would you agree that 720p > 540p?


A similar example would be taking a 2MP image and converting it to a 0.5MP image. Now convert the 0.5MP image to 1.0MP. The ultimate result is you are scaling up a 0.5MP image to 1.0MP image. It would be much better to simply convert the 2MP image to a 1.0 MP image.
 

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Is there a way to know what the resolution of BD movie is during playback? I have a SAMSUNG HL-P5085W (720 native) and unlike my Sony Bravia, it does not tell me the resolution of the source. I installed my PS3 last night. I chose custom resolution having a check on 480P, 720P and 1080i via HDMI. Looks really good btw.


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Is there a way to know what the resolution of BD movie is during playback? I have a SAMSUNG HL-P5085W (720 native) and unlike my Sony Bravia, it does not tell me the resolution of the source. I installed my PS3 last night. I chose custom resolution having a check on 480P, 720P and 1080i via HDMI. Looks really good btw.


TIA

thru hdmi your tv will tell you the resolution.
 
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