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PS3's BD playback PQ did not compare to the Samsung BDP-1200. Over the weekend I had the opportunity to compare my PS3 against my brothers Samsung BDP-1200 and must say the PQ from the Samsung was by far much better. Overall better detail and razor sharp whereas the PS3 was soft. Being a PS3 owner I am somewhat disappointedI had no idea the PS3 lacked PQ over the stand alones. That being said I now have a huge desire to purchase a BD stand alone but only when they come out with a fully featured player hopefully by the end of the year or early 2008.


On the SD side of things the PS3 really looked sad and the Samsung looked excellent. I wish this Samsung was full featured NOW because I would buy one today. It was that good and I am not a fan of Samsung players.



Movies tested wereBD titlesOpen Season, Crank, Kingdom of Heaven, Silent Hill and Casino Royaleand a few SD movies.


All testing was done on my JVC PRO 1080P 70


Has anyone else tested the PS3 with a BD stand alone?
 

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PS3's BD playback PQ did not compare to the Samsung BDP-1200. Over the weekend I had the opportunity to compare my PS3 against my brothers Samsung BDP-1200 and must say the PQ from the Samsung was by far much better. Overall better detail and razor sharp whereas the PS3 was soft. Being a PS3 owner I am somewhat disappointedI had no idea the PS3 lacked PQ over the stand alones. That being said I now have a huge desire to purchase a BD stand alone but only when they come out with a fully featured player hopefully by the end of the year or early 2008.


On the SD side of things the PS3 really looked sad and the Samsung looked excellent. I wish this Samsung was full featured NOW because I would buy one today. It was that good and I am not a fan of Samsung players.



Movies tested wereBD titlesOpen Season, Crank, Kingdom of Heaven, Silent Hill and Casino Royaleand a few SD movies.


All testing was done on my JVC PRO 1080P 70


Has anyone else tested the PS3 with a BD stand alone?


I exactly agree with you. I have the same opinion when comparing the PS3 to my A1, or XA2 - soft. I would be looking to get a standalone BR player as long as it supports the advanced audio codecs and full BD-J implementation. Then bye, bye to the PS3 since I rarely play games with it.
 

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strange. the PS3 has impressed me more than the A1 on HD images. of course this varies from title to title. can honestly say i've never seen an HD-DVD look as good (or at least better) as brothers grimm on the PS3. i'm quite happy with the PS3. no intention of getting a stand alone yet,
 

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strange. the PS3 has impressed me more than the A1 on HD images. of course this varies from title to title. can honestly say i've never seen an HD-DVD look as good (or at least better) as brothers grimm on the PS3.

Brothers Grimm looks great on HD DVD as well. I do find the PS3 somewhat softer in general with Blu-ray and DVD is a no go.



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Can you please elaborate on the way you compared the two players?
 

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to me ? nothing scientific (direct a/b running at the same time). just gut reaction. i'm only watching on a 720 display, so maybe that's effecting my opinion.


should point at this isn't a comparison between formats. just that the A1 is a standalone.
 

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I just sold my PS3 for a BD-P1200 and my initial reaction is the BD-P1200 is a little sharper. Certainly not a good test as I was only going by memory but comparing three or four titles each one appeared slightly crisper than with the PS3. I can't say more detailed rather the PS3 outlines looked less distinctive.


Since I didn't A/B them I can't really say one was better than the other. And I'm wondering if the HDMI Sharpness setting made the image appear sharper (it was set to Low) as Off causes the image to pass through as recorded. I'll play around some more before I really come to any conclusion.
 

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No, Andy, I directed my question to the OP. But thanks for responding anyway. Like you said, it was your impression and I respect it. however, when someone post about a direct comparison about two units, I always wonder how that comparison was made.
 

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PS3's BD playback PQ did not compare to the Samsung BDP-1200. Over the weekend I had the opportunity to compare my PS3 against my brothers Samsung BDP-1200 and must say the PQ from the Samsung was by far much better. Overall better detail and razor sharp whereas the PS3 was soft. Being a PS3 owner I am somewhat disappointedI had no idea the PS3 lacked PQ over the stand alones. That being said I now have a huge desire to purchase a BD stand alone but only when they come out with a fully featured player hopefully by the end of the year or early 2008.


On the SD side of things the PS3 really looked sad and the Samsung looked excellent. I wish this Samsung was full featured NOW because I would buy one today. It was that good and I am not a fan of Samsung players.



Movies tested wereBD titlesOpen Season, Crank, Kingdom of Heaven, Silent Hill and Casino Royaleand a few SD movies.


All testing was done on my JVC PRO 1080P 70


Has anyone else tested the PS3 with a BD stand alone?

How were the players connected (HDMI or component)?
 

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What we did was hook up both units direct to HDMI on the TV... I believe Charles R hit it right when saying the Samsung's PQ looked more crisp...which by the way I used the term razor sharpmaybe not the right wordsbut the PS3 was soft IMO.


We both had copies of BD Open Season and BD Casino Royale so we could switch back and forth with the TV's inputs. The others were done by switching the disc from player to player. SD was another story all together...SD was not good on the PS3...the Samsung did a stellar job on SD...My set has been calibrated with DVE. Remember this is just our opinion.


I just wanted to know if anyone else compared a stand alone to the PS3. I still believe the PS3 puts out a excellent picture...just not as nice as the new Samsung.
 

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I sold my PS3 for a Philips Blu-ray player. I had both hooked up via HDMI, and I really haven't seen any difference in picture quality. For me the change occured because I would rather have a set top player in my home theater, and I didn't play games on teh PS3 very much. My Philips puts out about the same picture quality as my HD-A2, and I am very happy with both (and glad to be rid of the PS3 as a Blu-ray player). When more Blu-ray movies have DTS MA, I will probably be wishing I had a player that could handle the codec. But I will eventually upgrade to a player that does handle advanced audio codecs.
 

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I've compared the PS3 to my HD-A2 using the exact same movie/codec (Superman: The Movie and The Last Samurai). My set is ISF'd and both inputs fully calibrated. Flipping back and forth between numerous scenes on each movie while BOTH movies were playing simultaneously revealed there were absolutely, positively NO differences between either player. Grant you, my display is not 1080p (it's really 1400X1080i on a CRT RPTV), but I still bet there wouldn't be any difference up to that resolution. Color, detail, black level, gamma, sharpness, etc. were identical.


Unless you control ALL variables - or as many variables as possible - it's meaningless.


I would be curious how the Samsung compares.
 

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Is the Samsung BDP-1200 a true 1080p/24fps player?

Yes.
 

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I checked Samsung's website and it doesn't mention (at least I didn't see it) anything about the player being able to output true 1080p/24fps.

It does. See page 42 of the owner's manual:

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Movie Frame (24 Fs)

Movies are usually filmed at 24 frames per

second. Some Blu-ray discs have the capability

of playing back at this frame rate. Setting the

Movie Frame (24Fs) feature to ON allows you to

adjust the Blu-ray player's HDMI output to 24

frames per second for improved picture quality.

If your TV cannot support this frame rate, this

menu cannot be selected,

This menu can only be selected in 1080i or

1080p HDMI output resolution modes.
 

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Argh.... You guys have just confirmed my suspicion when I bought my PS3 back in January. I was afraid that a gaming console's video playback capability would not be as good as a standalone and I don't like the blue-tooth remote because it doesn't play well with my Harmony remote. I guess I am gonna wait until they finalize BD-J and trade my PS3 for a standalone BD player......
 
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