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Quesiton about 5.1 speaker connections on Yammy rx-v1500

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Mojo97

Discussion Starter · Oct 23, 2004

Hey all, i realize this is a pretty noobish question, but please entertain my question... ;-) I'm coming off of having a straight (although crappy) 5.1 channel receiver, and recently got a Yamaha RX-V1500.

My question is, what channels should i hook up my 2 rear speakers to? I have 2 options, either the L/R Surround Speakers or the L/R SurroundBack Speakers. I currently have them hooked up to the Surround Speakers because the placement of the speakers to the side, not behind me. My couch is against the wall, so that doesn't really allow me to place the speakers behind me.

Anyways, the reason why i'm asking is that i'm not too familiar with the 6.1/7.1 speaker setups and I want to make sure that i am making the most of the features the receiver provides me when in a 5.1 setup.

Also, for anyone else that has this or a similar receiver in a 5.1 setup, what "Surround Field" programs are you using for normal DVD watching? I've been experimenting with the "THX Cinema" and the "Standard" fields (i.e. ProLogic Surround Enhanced/DTS Neo:6 Cinema). If i'm using DTS Neo:6 Cinema in a 5.1 setup with a DVD that is just normal Dolby Digital, what's going on at the receiver level? That kind of thing is what confuses me....

thx

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SMac770

· #2 · Oct 23, 2004

If the speakers are to the sides, then they would be "surround", not "surround back". Check out the Speaker Placement page in the manual (page 11 in my 1400 manual).

For stereo, Pro Logic, and Pro Logic II material, I use DTS Neo:6 Cinema (VCR, PlayStation2, etc.)

For Dolby Digital material, I use Dolby Digital Surround Standard (DVD, DTV, XBox, etc.)

For Dolby Digital EX material, I use Dolby Digital EX Surround Standard (don't think I have anything with this)

For DTS material, I use DTS Surround Standard (GTA:VC on PS2 actually, DVD, etc.).

For DTS ES material, I use DTS ES Surround Standard (LoTR DVDs, etc.)

I played briefly with the Surround Enhanced and THX modes, but leave it in Standard these days. Check out the Sound Field Program Descriptions for movie/video sources pages in the manual (pages 41-42 in my 1400 manual).

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Mojo97

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 23, 2004

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Originally posted by SMac770
If the speakers are to the sides, then they would be "surround", not "surround back". Check out the Speaker Placement page in the manual (page 11 in my 1400 manual).

For stereo, Pro Logic, and Pro Logic II material, I use DTS Neo:6 Cinema (VCR, PlayStation2, etc.)

For Dolby Digital material, I use Dolby Digital Surround Standard (DVD, DTV, XBox, etc.)

For Dolby Digital EX material, I use Dolby Digital EX Surround Standard (don't think I have anything with this)

For DTS material, I use DTS Surround Standard (GTA:VC on PS2 actually, DVD, etc.).

For DTS ES material, I use DTS ES Surround Standard (LoTR DVDs, etc.)

I played briefly with the Surround Enhanced and THX modes, but leave it in Standard these days. Check out the Sound Field Program Descriptions for movie/video sources pages in the manual (pages 41-42 in my 1400 manual).

thanks for the input. are you using 5.1 speakers? i have read through the manual and i guess i still had these questions... for instance, with 5.1 channels, is DTS Neo: 6 mode trying to use a 6th speaker that i don't have? my assumption is not, but i'm just not 100% positive. it was so much simpler with a straight 5.1 setup when there was only Dolby Digital and DTS to think about. Now, there are so many different formats and i don't know what they all mean. the manual is useful to an extent, but it really just says "you should use this mode in this circumstance".

again, this is probably all due to my basic understanding of 6.1/7.1 channel modes. what i'm trying to comprehend is how the 6.1/7.1 channel modes apply to my 5.1 setup...

i know i still have lots of reading to do to really understand, but any pointers anyone wants to give would be much appreciated.

thx

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Mojo97

Discussion Starter · #4 · Oct 23, 2004

this explanation helped to clear things up for me...

http://www.dtsonline.com/technology/...nceID=Overview

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Landroval

· #5 · Oct 23, 2004

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Originally posted by SMac770
If the speakers are to the sides, then they would be "surround", not "surround back".

Wrong. With 5.1 speakers the surrounds will always be "surround" and never "surround back". Placement doesn't matter. The Receiver dont know how to put surround streams to surround back output.

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Mojo97

Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 23, 2004

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Originally posted by Landroval
Wrong. With 5.1 speakers the surrounds will always be "surround" and never "surround back". Placement doesn't matter. The Receiver dont know how to put surround streams to surround back output.

i'm reading this as saying that i have my surround speakers connected to the right output on the receiver, correct? i have them using the surround output and the surround back is currently not being used.

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jeffgun

· #7 · Oct 23, 2004

Yep. You've got it right.

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Mojo97

Discussion Starter · #8 · Oct 23, 2004

thanks. the receiver also has output for left and right "presence" speakers. jeebus. it's almost like i could build a room out of speakers and feed them all through this thing. haha.

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jeffgun

· #9 · Oct 23, 2004

Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

FWIW, I ran my 1400 with 5.1 for a while and then added the surround backs and I really like the difference they made. If your room is deep enough, get 2 more speakers and it will really give you some depth in the back.

Enjoy the 1500, it's a great receiver!!

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Mojo97

Discussion Starter · #10 · Oct 23, 2004

would love to be able to put in the extra 2 speakers. but, my apt isn't big enough for it. when i buy a house, then, it'll be a different story...

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yubakram

· #11 · Oct 23, 2004

We have a 5.1 system with a couch that is on the back wall, the di-pole surrounds will be up on the wall and 3' from each end of the couch.

Is there a way to use in-wall speakers as the surround-backs directly behind the couch? or would those speakers be too close to the people on the couch?

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jeffgun

· #12 · Oct 23, 2004

I think with the surrounds and the surround backs that close together you are not going to get any benefit from the additional speakers.

My room is 25'X13', I have the surrounds 16 feet back, hanging just behind the couch against the wall and the surround backs are another 9 feet back on shelves on the back wall.

Don't despair though, it will still sound awesome in 5.1. I just got lucky and happen to have a perfect room and a very understanding wife!

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