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QUESTIONS about screen for my 4805

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I bought an infocus 4805 last week and I have it all mounted. It's projecting on the wall now, but I do want a screen. I mounted it so that with zoom I can go from a 92" - 106" screen. Selecting a screen is proving to be a little overwhelming, though. I'm not a videophile looking for top-notch quality (otherwise I wouldn't have bought the 4805!) but I do want the best picture I can get on a budget.


I'd like to spend

I have some questions...


1) I've heard that I can get screen material samples sent to me to try out. Which companies do this, and how can I request it?


2) My wife would like a wall-hanging pull-down screen so it can be out of reach of the kids when not in use, and so we can hang a picture on the wall to look nice when not in use. What are the drawbacks of a pull-down screen? We would choose a manual because of cost.


3) What is the difference between tensioned and non-tensioned? Price? Ease of use? Picture quality?


4) Can anyone give me a very specific recommendation on what screen material, combined with what screen hardware to use? Many people use DaLite screens, from what I've read, which I'm sure would be fine for me. But their variety of hardware, screen types, and material types makes it difficult to even figure out what I need!


Attached is a picture of the wall where I will be hanging the screen. It's all white now, but we'll be painting the whole room a darker brown soon!


Thanks for any advice you can give!


PS: I'm not really looking for a DIY solution. I don't have enough time to mess with it, and my wife wants this up asap!

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Q 3...a tensioned screen is made of a relatively thin membrane material and when in the down position the material is "stretched" gently to eliminate sags and wrinkles, to yield a flat and smooth viewing surface. The tension is applied by the dead weight of a bar attached to the bottom of the screen and secondly via a pair of taut cords that pull across on the fabric, through a series of attached hemmed loops. Only a few manufacturers offer tensioned screens in a pull-down version, they are usually only available in motorized.
I have some questions...


1) I've heard that I can get screen material samples sent to me to try out. Which companies do this, and how can I request it?



I only looked at Da-lite, just call them for samples, they mail them for free.

2) My wife would like a wall-hanging pull-down screen so it can be out of reach of the kids when not in use, and so we can hang a picture on the wall to look nice when not in use. What are the drawbacks of a pull-down screen? We would choose a manual because of cost.


I bought a hanging pull down screen in the matte white da-lite fabric. It was REALLY cheap, less than 10% of your budget. The drawbacks I read about were "waves" in the fabric, and they are there. Tiny when I bought it, now much larger and very disctracting with any panning of the camera. Totally takes me out of the movie.

3) What is the difference between tensioned and non-tensioned? Price? Ease of use? Picture quality?


Tensioned screens exist to eliminate waves. They greatly improve your viewing experience, and like most things that do that, they cost.

4) Can anyone give me a very specific recommendation on what screen material, combined with what screen hardware to use? Many people use DaLite screens, from what I've read, which I'm sure would be fine for me. But their variety of hardware, screen types, and material types makes it difficult to even figure out what I need!


I would strongly encourage you to figure out a way to make a fixed screen work. If not, I have done a lot of reading from these pages, and the screen to get would be a da-lite Hi-Power pull down. It's a reflective high gain screen if you view on axis (meaning if you watch from where the projector is coming from - a coffee table for example). It is not a high gain if like most people you ceiling mounted your PJ. What it seems to do, and only from reading the forums, is somehow hide the waves due to it's reflective surface. If you search on high power you'll see lots of posts from x1 users who wanted a pull down and ended up with this screen.


It is much more than matte white, about 300 or 400$ depending on size. You can get the model b (basic pull down) or model c (nicer mechanics) with or without the controlled screen return (CSR - very slow retraction to prevent damage from uncontrolled retraction ). The drawbacks to the CSR are added cost, and it only allows you to pull it down to certain points, whereas the regular screens have an infinite number of stopping points.


I went with mine thinking I'd get around to building myself a motorized tab tenisioned screen from the nice matte white fabric, but haven't had the time or inclination to mess with it. I have to have a pul[l down because the only place I can set up a screen is in front of a window. My budget is far less then yours, but you need at least another 750$ to consider a tab tensioned screen, the only ones I've seen are motorized, probably because you need a lot of weight at the bottom of the screen to make the tensioning work.


I'd love it if someone would correct me and tell us about a cheap, manual, tab tensioned pull down screen:)
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Q 3...a tensioned screen is made of a relatively thin membrane material and when in the down position the material is "stretched" gently to eliminate sags and wrinkles, to yield a flat and smooth viewing surface. The tension is applied by the dead weight of a bar attached to the bottom of the screen and secondly via a pair of taut cords that pull across on the fabric, through a series of attached hemmed loops. Only a few manufacturers offer tensioned screens in a pull-down version, they are usually only available in motorized.
did a quick google search, draper and stewart make pull down tab tensioned screens. The draper series c just squeaks under your budget.
Okay, I'm going to consider a fixed frame screen instead. Waviness in the screen is NOT something I want at all. I'd rather project on a wall than have a wavy screen.


Someday I'll get a big motorized tension screen, but for now a fixed will work.


Looks like the DaLite HCCV material works well for most people.


What are important things to look for in selecting a frame?
If you're looking at da-lite fabric, and you're not going to DIY, you probably should just buy whatever da-lite sells. A simple frame of 1x2 pine works fine for most people, so I'm sure whatever commercial solution you get will be at least as good as that, assuming you're not going to be moving/transporting the screen a lot.


AVS sells Da-lite at reasonable prices, email them for a quote. The MSRP of their perm-wall (least expensive) in HCCV is around 700$ in your size- all on da-lite's web site. When you consider you can buy the fabric and some pine and hardware to make your own for (probably far) less than 200$, you can see why DIY is so popular.
The Carada fixed screen is in your budget as well and the larger Frame really adds to the look. I have a tab tensioned motorized Stewart Greyhawk screen. I had to put this in because it drops in fron of a book case. If I were doing it all over again the Carada Fixed screen would be in the running.


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