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93






Studio and Year: Lions gate - 2008
MPAA Rating: R
Feature running time: 93 Minutes
Genre: Action

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: MPEG-4 (AVC)
Video Aspect: 2.35:1
Resolution: 1080p/24


Audio Format(s): English 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, Dolby Digital 5.1 EX Surround, French Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround
Subtitles: English & Spanish
Starring: Sylvester Stallone, Julie Benz, Paul Schulze, Matthew Marsden, Graham McTavish, Tim Kang
Directed by:Sylvester Stallone
Music by: Brian Tyler
Written by: Art Montrastelli & Sylvester Stallone
Region Code: A

Blu-ray Disc release Date: May, 27, 2008







"Live for nothing or die for something"



Film Synopsis:




The ultimate American action hero returns - with a vengeance! After spending several years in northern Thailand operating a longboat on the Salween River, John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) reluctantly agrees to carry a group of Christian missionaries into war-torn Burma. But when the aid workers are captured by ruthless Nationalist Army Soldiers, Rambo leads a group of battle-scarred, combat -hardened mercenaries on an epic, last ditch mission to rescue the prisoners - at all costs.



My Take:


I have been a Sylvester Stallone fan since I saw Rocky in the theater back in 1976. When First Blood came out back in 1982 I think it solidified Stallone as a star. I loved First Blood but when Part II came out was blown away (hey I was about 20 years old). The first two in the series have been my favorites as I never really connected with the third. After Rocky Balboa was released seeing this fourth installment in the Rambo franchise didn't come as a surprise. I had seen it on Blu-ray disc prior to this review but couldn't help but jump at the chance to watch it again when Lionsgate offered it. This is a straight forward and fairly simple story. For me I see its focal point being one dimensional. The idea is to create a situation wherein John Rambo can be thrown back into the fray. I can appreciate the fact that there are no bones about that. The screenplay moves quickly to achieve its purpose and once there it delivers to that end in spades. The bad guys are quickly established and get enough time onscreen so that we figure that they deserve the worst that Rambo can dish out. Once things are underway it gets bloody, graphically violent, and lots of stuff blows up. I could have done without the sexual assaults on women and the inference of a sexual assault on a minor though. Things are wrapped up and our man saves the day (for the most part). I thought the ending was a little corny but that's Stallone's style. When all was said and done I enjoyed Rambo. I liked the quick paced nature of the story and the action sequences were well done. It was overly violent which I thought could have been taken down a notch. I did appreciate its attempt to realistically depict the effects of gun battles and war.




Parental Guide:


The rating is appropriate. This is not one for young viewers and parents should be cautious.





AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)


Audio: 96


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Video: 90


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Rambo comes to Blu-ray Disc from Lionsgate featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 27 mbps and lossless 7.1 channel DTS-HD Master Audio that has an average bitrate of 5.8 mbps.

The video presentation was near reference quality and offered stunning images. Detail was sublime from almost every perspective with only a handful of shots appearing less than pristine in quality. I attributed this more to the photography than the encoding. Contrast was slightly elevated which made bright scenes appear more dynamic while obscuring fine detail and detectable delineation within whites. Blacks were nice and deep with plenty of dynamic range and visible gradations. This was the case with scenes containing both light and dark elements. I had no trouble detecting objects within dark areas or backgrounds during low light scenes. Colors were intentionally muted which made them appear flat but thanks to the video's high resolution and razor sharpness it came off just fine. Fleshtones were earthy looking which to my eyes was a perfect fit with the style of the film. This was a great looking transfer overall.

The DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack on this Blu-ray Disc was a sonic tour de force and was of reference quality. My SVS PB-13 Ultra subwoofer cranked out an abundance of clean, powerful, and room filling bass that had palpable extension. By design this mix is intended to be bombastic and aggressive. I had the feeling that my room had been transformed into a jungle as sounds were both distinctive and spatially ambiguous within the sound field. Gunfire and explosions had a tactile and dynamic impact that could be felt from any point in the room. The rich and immersive quality of the audio enhanced the experience to a higher level of realism. The soundstage didn't seem to have two parts but one very large one that was elaborately detailed and sonically superior. If you want to drive your entire system to demonstrate its capabilities this DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack is the ticket. I have added Rambo to my list of recommended Blu-ray Demo Discs.



Bonus Features:




This is a well rounded and comprehensive bonus set that takes you inside the world of Rambo. It starts with the 20 year journey that brought Rambo to the big screen and includes details on script ideas, concepts and interviews. It provides details on the music used in the film, post production problems, the weapons featured in the story, opening premiere night and more. There is a very good feature on the continuing problems in real life Burma which is a must see.

Included is a Bonus view picture in picture option which plays along with the film (a profile 1.1 player is required) which is very informative and includes behind the scenes footage and more for those interested. The MoLog (Movie Log) feature allows you to watch the film, and create your own value added content via a shared blog. This option requires a Profile 2.0 compatible player and live internet connection. Lastly Lionsgate has included a Digital Copy bonus disc containing a standard definition version of the film which can be loaded on to a PC or Mac and then on to a portable playback device. I think this is a great idea and am glad to see that more studios are using it.



  • Audio Commentary: With Sylvester Stallone

  • (HD) 4 Deleted Scenes

  • (HD) Its a long road: Resurrection of an icon featurette

  • (HD) Ascore to settle: The music if Rambo featurette

  • (HD) The art of war: Completing Rambo featurette

  • (HD) The Weaponry of Rambo featurette

  • (HD) A heros welcome: Release & Reaction featurette

  • (HD) Legacy of despair: The struggle in Burma featurette

  • (HD) Rambo Series Trailer Gallery

  • MoLog

  • Digital Copy





Final Thoughts:




Lionsgate has put together an impressive Blu-ray Disc package in Rambo. The film is not going to win any awards but for those that like plenty of hard hitting action it gets the job done. It features superlative audio quality, near reference video and a complete set of bonus supplements. It has found a place in my collection.













Ralph Potts
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Ralph, did you notice any audio dropouts during the presentation? I watched this just the other night on my Samsung BD-P1400 (v1.6fw) and there were 3 very distinct audio drops in the film, the first occuring right about the 13 minute mark.


It seems I'm not the only one who has experienced this as a search on the Internet yields numerous other people with the same issue across multiple playback devices. That said, I just updated my firmware to the recently released 1.8 and the problem went away!


Overall, I loved this film. I agree that some of the sexual assaults where over the top, but to me this helped to establish more legitimacy with the story and the situation. This very thing IS HAPPENING in Burma today, and Stallone invoking those story elements only portrays the military in an accurate, if difficult to watch, light.


The audio on this disc is definitely the stuff of demo material. The .50 cal "up close in the cab" scene had me "checking to see if I had got any on me".
 

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Greetings,


I didn't notice any audio droputs using my Panasonic BD30 bitstreaming the DTS-HD MA audio to my Denon.


I also have the Samsung 1400 but its in the living room system.



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I also didnt notice the drop outs and thought the movie much better then the critics reviewed thought it was. This went to "must have" on my wish list.
 

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Agreed, this is quite entertaining, though not for the squeamish. Might be my favorite of the four.


And I thought the ending was perfect as it drew the movies full circle - First Blood begins with Rambo walking the road with his GI jacket and duffle, and Rambo ends with him walking the road with his GI jacket and duffle, and finally coming home.


How this got a lower score than Meet the friggin' Spartans, I'll never know, because the whole "score within the genre" thing should apply here as well.


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Greetings,

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Agreed, this is quite entertaining, though not for the squeamish. Might be my favorite of the four.


And I thought the ending was perfect as it drew the movies full circle - First Blood begins with Rambo walking the road with his GI jacket and duffle, and Rambo ends with him walking the road with his GI jacket and duffle, and finally coming home.


How this got a lower score than Meet the friggin' Spartans, I'll never know, because the whole "score within the genre" thing should apply here as well.


MEC2

MEC2, I am glad that you liked the ending and thought it was perfect. I didn't mind the ending but thought that it was a little corny.


Regarding your comments about this and Meet the Spartans I believe that you have answered your own question.


I liked this movie but when compared to other action films it falls into the middle of the pack. That is not a bad thing but is simply my opinion. You have seen the film and have your own. How about we let it go at that?


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Nice review Ralph



I miss seeing Jerry Goldsmith’s screen credit. I didn’t like the score on the film however sound effects and ADR dialogue mix sounded cool, but isn’t the centre so common these days! More dialogue panning I say.


The onscreen violence was “over the top” I mean the BBFC cut and hack away at other films on this type of level Predator gets cut then realised with BS story that makes you what to punch someone for being cheeky. Then Commando gets hacked and I’m sure you know what scene I’m talking about.


How in the world this managed to get an 18 certification it should have gotten something in-between, slightly above 18R which is porn, because it looked like Stallone was making a snuff movie. LOL


Oh, there is just one other thing thou. Who was keeping count on the body count because I lost count?
 

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I've been lurking in Ralphs reviews for a bit now, and as far as I can tell, there isnt too many bluray movies that Ralph isnt going to like. There are some cool scenes, but some of the explosions looked like stock footage (which to be fair was a photography thing not a bluray tech deficiency as Ralph mentioned), and I'm not refering to flashbacks. If you've enjoyed the Rambo series, its worth a watch, but think rental, not purchase.
 

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score 93 wow this must be a good movie hope so getting it from ebay for 14.00 sealed new ...
 

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This movie ruled. I know how people think the violence is too over the top but remember it's alot worse in Burma in real life. If you love 80's action movies this is a must have. I think it's the best Rambo and I've watched all of them tons of times.
 

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Rambo is a must own movie for anyone who calls themselves ACTION FANS.
 

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i just started buying new sealed bluray dvds from ebay i am a bluraylic...

i know i am off topic here .i hope bluray will stay for 10 years not like those big laserdisc that was so hot and died after 2 years
 

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It amazes me how in one room the audio sounds one way but in another (like mine) it can sound completely different. Don't get me wrong I thought the audio was awesome on my set-up (5.1) BUT I felt the rears had very little action going on. I wasn't "sonically" involved. I got the occasional bleeds to my rears but overall I felt it was a real front heavy movie.


It can't be my set-up because very next movie I threw in was Transformers and ALL my speakers came alive!
 

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i just started buying new sealed bluray dvds from ebay i am a bluraylic...

i know i am off topic here .i hope bluray will stay for 10 years not like those big laserdisc that was so hot and died after 2 years

Do you mean 2(0) years? Because Laserdisc was around a looooong time and had thousands of titles, some that have yet to even make their way to standard DVD. Blu-ray should be so lucky.
 

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No droputs here with my BD30 bitstreamed to 3808CI set-up. This is one great soundtrack and I must admit, it may be my favorite Rambo film.
 

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Oh, there is just one other thing thou. Who was keeping count on the body count because I lost count?

here is a chart for all 4 movies:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-conte...eath-chart.jpg





I also thought the violence was a little over the top, but man...best action sequences i've seen yet audio-wise. i love it when rambo tells the other guy to "fire off a shot" with his .50 cal. shakes the house! soooo deep.
 

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here is a chart for all 4 movies:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-conte...eath-chart.jpg





I also thought the violence was a little over the top, but man...best action sequences i've seen yet audio-wise. i love it when rambo tells the other guy to "fire off a shot" with his .50 cal. shakes the house! soooo deep.



LOL now that's what I'm talking about, oh dear.
I think we need a back-story to how Rambo disposed of the enemy when on tour of duty in Vietnam?
 

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LOL now that's what I'm talking about, oh dear.
I think we need a back-story to how Rambo disposed of the enemy when on tour of duty in Vietnam?

You will get your wish, he is already in talks to do another Rambo. I personally saw this movie 4-5 times in the theater about 10 times total. Since I don't have a theater at the house, I felt it was my duty to see this the way Stallone intended and boy did he do it right! It definitely isn't for the squeamish, that was intended to show what is really going on in Burma. As far as action movies go, this one moved right up to the top of my list.
 
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