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RCA Oval Dish Problem...

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I just installed an RCA oval HDTV dish this weekend. Everything is working, but I'm really bothered about the signal strength discrepancy between the two satellites. I get 84-87 strenth on the 101, but no matter what I do, even disregarding the 101, I can only get 69-70 strength on the 119. I'm using the included ChannelMaster 4x4 splitter. Some Questions:


-How does this splitter distribute the signals? There's a '13V' and '18V' input for each of the two horns. How are these combined and split out to the four outputs? I've tried swapping input cables and alternating them but became even more confused when I'd still get a 69 signal on 119 if I had either 119 cable hooked up to the 13V signal, but absolutely nothing if it either were on the 18V signal. This rules out a cable problem...


-Is this a common problem, having this large of a spread between the two?



I'm desperate for some help on this one. Anybody else experience this problem?


Thanks in advance,


Chris
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Looks like the 199 signal strength may be about par with what others in the midwest-east coast are getting sometimes after reading some more old posts.


I'd still like some information on exactly how the ChannelMaster splitter/combiner works...


Thanks,


Chris
I am in CA and I have the same dish and I get 88 on 101 and 75 on 119. This is better than a lot of people out there, if you are getting near or over the 70's on 119 be very happy as I have seen people only being able to get in the 50's tops. Good luck.
Really nothing to worry about. In several hundred oval dish installations I have always seen the 119 bird a little lower than the 101. Usually about 10 points lower to be exact. You do not get any better picture if the signal meter shows 40 or 95. It's digital, either it works 100% perfectly or it does not. Of course I never settle for 40 on the meter, usually I get depending on the receiver something like 75 or so on the 119, and 85 on the 101.


In the Los Angeles area where I work thunderstorms like those that occur in the midwest are very rare. The only possible problem with signals weaker than say about 60 would be possible brief rain fade during heavy downpours. I have seen this twice personally during 5 years as a Direct TV subscriber.


The only way to get around the slight limitations of the Direct TV oval dish is to use (2) 24" dishes, one for the 101, the other for the 119. Then use the tone multi-switch and combine the 2 together. I have never felt the need, but you should get hammered with mid 90's or better signal on both satellite locations. Really the only need to go through this much work is if you get regular thunderstorms....otherwise just watch TV, ok?
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Two 18" dishes will also produce the same effect for better signal strength.
Thanks for the help. We had a pretty nice storm last night and I saw no appreciable reduction in signal, and no dropouts so I'm not real worried about it.


Being the geek that I am, though, I'd really like to know how the multiswitch works. Can anybody answer that question? When I was messing around, I saw that I still got full signal strength even when I only had 1 of the two lnb's hooked up on both the 119 and 101 side. Why does this setup require 4 cables if this is the case? And what do "13V" and 1"18V" mean on the multiswitch inputs from the LNB's?


Thanks,

Chris
If you do a search on the multiswitch you will probably get a good reply to your question. Briefly, the voltages have to do with the polarity of the signal from the satellite. Satellite signals are sent "polarized" the way polarized filters and sunglasses work. That is, the signal wave is sent in only one plane. This allows two signals to be sent 90 degrees to each other on the same frequency doubling the information that can be sent. The LNB gets a signal from your receiver telling it which "channel" you want to watch. It then switches the polarity as necessary to show that signal. The receiver tells the LNB which polarity to use by sending it a voltage signal. Since there are two different satellites you're looking at, and since you may have multiple receivers trying to look at channels with different polarities, you need a way to get the correct polarity signal to the LNB and the correct signal to your receiver. The multiswitch accomplishes these voltage changes and signal selections.


SMK
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I am getting 94 on the 101 and 87 on the 199 here outside Chicago.
Now that the clouds have lifted, I'm looking at 88 (101) and 75 (119). I was getting 94 with a round dish. However, this location is a little less desireable as I had to sacrifice a bit to catch both birds (Oak trees all around the house).


Thanks for the help, guys!
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