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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian  /t/1417959/ready-for-a-starship-troopers-reboot#post_22176228


New Starship Troopers with less violence? Le sigh.

Ditto
 

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Military service has nothing to do with Facism, which is a brutal and ineffective political ideology, beloved of those who seek political power by oppressing and enslaving others. Paul Verhoeven never understood this, and his film was fatally flawed because of it. I for one would welcome a new Starship Troopers film, if it were made by someone who understands the essence of "service".

Verhoeven made the film HE wanted to make. It was ironic, and effective ,for those who understood his message.


Do you not believe there is politics in the military, just as everywhere else? I was in the Army, what branch did you serve in?
 

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Originally Posted by Josh Z  /t/1417959/ready-for-a-starship-troopers-reboot#post_22177537


Verhoeven had the right idea when he tossed the book in the trash halfway through. I wish I'd done the same.

Verhoeven got all the way to halfway through? I pitched my copy a lot sooner than that. Boring doesn't even begin to describe it. The movie, however, was a lot of fun and deliciously subversive. A lot of folks just didn't get it.


Another remake that doesn't need to be made. Unless it has more violence and gratuitous nudity, of course. That might make it worthwhile.
 

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Originally Posted by archiguy  /t/1417959/ready-for-a-starship-troopers-reboot#post_22178244


The movie, however, was a lot of fun and deliciously subversive. A lot of folks just didn't get it.
+100

Verhoven went way over a lot of people's heads with ST.

Very topical and very much a poke with a sharp stick in the eye of those who Jefferson referred to in "Patriotism...the last refuge of scoundrels."
 

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I recently watched Starship Troopers and I think it's a quite a sly riposte of itself. But what I really want to see is a movie version of "Bill the Galactic Hero". ;p
 

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Another subversive element that probably pissed off moviegoers...(stop here if you've never seen the movie)






The good girl dies and the ***** lives! Not the typical Hollywood crowd-pleasing ending but I appreciated the cajones of Verhoeven for doing it.




As for the remake, I have ZERO interest in seeing a watered-down version. I mean. why not just call it G.I. JOE 3? Yawn




"Medic!!!!"
 

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What I liked with Verhoevens movie was that they filmed it like a propaganda movie of the federation, dont think I have seen any scifi movie like that before. And since I served in the military when I saw the movie I really enjoyed the fun it played at various military stereotypes. Im also weak for good movie scores and Basil Poledouris rarely let you down.


I also have no problem with a remake done in another fashion. If its wellmade its wellmade.
 

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AVS is not the website to discuss politics. Please remember this is a home theater website...our mission is to focus on HT hobby.


If it's not possible to discuss this film without a political discussion, then this thread will need to be closed. Sorry, but it's a slippery slope.
 

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Originally Posted by rboster  /t/1417959/ready-for-a-starship-troopers-reboot#post_22182469


AVS is not the website to discuss politics. Please remember this is a home theater website...our mission is to focus on HT hobby.

If it's not possible to discuss this film without a political discussion, then this thread will need to be closed. Sorry, but it's a slippery slope.

I didn't say one word about whether I agreed or disagreed with Heinlein's politics in any of my posts that have now been purged from this thread. My problem with the book had nothing to do with Heinlein's politcal leanings, but rather the fact that, as a piece of literature, the book is terribly written and tedious.


I disliked the Starship Troopers novel for the same reason that I dislike books and movies that attempt to pander to my own political leanings. They are inevitably sophomoric and boring. I prefer stories about characters who have personalities and do things, and aren't just mouthpieces for the author's political diatribes, no matter what side he's on. This should not be a controversial statement to make.


As I tried to say earlier, if this reboot movie is actually faithful to the book, it will be the most boring movie ever made. Because nothing at all happens in the book, except for the main character sitting down for long-winded sermons from his teachers and his commanding officers, over and over again.
 

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Yeah, I thought the trigger got pulled a little too quickly this time as well. This movie provides plenty of meaty topics for discussion, and not every bit of politics needs to be purged if it's relevant to the topic. Heck, even the fishin' posts got flushed!
 

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Originally Posted by Josh Z  /t/1417959/ready-for-a-starship-troopers-reboot#post_22182785


I prefer stories about characters who have personalities and do things, and aren't just mouthpieces for the author's political diatribes, no matter what side he's on. This should not be a controversial statement to make.

As I tried to say earlier, if this reboot movie is actually faithful to the book, it will be the most boring movie ever made. Because nothing at all happens in the book, except for the main character sitting down for long-winded sermons from his teachers and his commanding officers, over and over again.
+1

We recently had a movie exactly like this.....


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Originally Posted by archiguy  /t/1417959/ready-for-a-starship-troopers-reboot#post_22183072


Yeah, I thought the trigger got pulled a little too quickly this time as well. This movie provides plenty of meaty topics for discussion, and not every bit of politics needs to be purged if it's relevant to the topic. Heck, even the fishin' posts got flushed!
I can see why the fishing posts were deleted....

The fish that were singing for me were, in fact, GERMAN Brown Trout.

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On the topic of deleting posts: Please keep in mind we get over a 100 report posts on a slow day. When we have to clean up a thread that has gotten misdirected, there will be times we delete posts that maybe were fine or a portion of the post violated policy (which requires us to be a copy editor) or you were quoting the problem post in question (again copy editor issue). The real world issue is we don't always have time to do some of the "little things". My apologies. Time to move forward.
 

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Apparently everyone thinks they can make a movie better now. What made this movie was the large amount of violence, cheesy 1 liners and the shower scene. Take that away and its not a man movie anymore and being sci fi makes it not a chick flick. Are they going to explain why we are fighting a planet full of bugs on a foreign planet that if left alone will not harm us?
 
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