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So I lost most of my home theater in the divorce. Specifically, two Klipsch RF5s and an RC62, however I was able to keep my SVS PB12+.... Since then I found my old Yamaha 5.1 receiver and a pair of Kenwood KL777s that my parents kept from years ago. As I have everything now, I like the full range sound of the 2.1 setup now, but I miss the 3.1 setup I had, so now I am looking for a center channel. I'm located in the US, and have a budget of $300. I know the speakers are probably going to be near impossible to match with a new center channel but I just want clean crisp dialogue. Eventually the Kenwood's will be reverted to rears and new fronts will be purchased.
 

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I'm located in the US, and have a budget of $300. I know the speakers are probably going to be near impossible to match with a new center channel but I just want clean crisp dialogue. Eventually the Kenwood's will be reverted to rears and new fronts will be purchased.

Emotiva C1+, $250 shipped

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HTD Level 3 center, $230 shipped with free return shipping
 

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I have heard very good things about the Elac Uni Fi uc5 center channel especially for crisp dialog, reasonably priced.Sorry you lost so much in your divorce, good luck.
 

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Eventually once I'm able to replace the fronts as well, how would you compare the HTD, Emotiva and Elac series of speakers vs Klipsch? I liked the sound that my RF5s and RC62 had but over time there was definite fatigue after hours of listening or watching movies.
 

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Eventually once I'm able to replace the fronts as well, how would you compare the HTD, Emotiva and Elac series of speakers vs Klipsch? I liked the sound that my RF5s and RC62 had but over time there was definite fatigue after hours of listening or watching movies.
Of those 4 brands, Emotiva in my opinion would be the clear winner if you want to be assured of not ever experiencing listening fatigue. Aside from being the best bang for the buck.
 

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Agreed, the Emotiva C1+ appears to be a great value for a 3-way center channel with a folded ribbon tweeter. If you can stretch your budget an extra $99, the Emotiva C2+ is an absolute beast for $399.
 

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Eventually once I'm able to replace the fronts as well, how would you compare the HTD, Emotiva and Elac series of speakers vs Klipsch? I liked the sound that my RF5s and RC62 had but over time there was definite fatigue after hours of listening or watching movies.

The HSU HC-1 MK2 Would give you efficiency close to Klipsch without the fatigue.
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hc-1.html
Ascend CMT-340 is very neutral and will provide clean & crisp dialogue.
http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cmt340c/cmt340c.html
 

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Agreed, the Emotiva C1+ appears to be a great value for a 3-way center channel with a folded ribbon tweeter. If you can stretch your budget an extra $99, the Emotiva C2+ is an absolute beast for $399.
It's not a ribbon. It's paper. True ribbon tweeters don't make for great home theater speakers.
 
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It's not a ribbon. It's paper. True ribbon tweeters don't make for great home theater speakers.
From their webpage: "The Airmotiv C1+ features a 32 mm Airmotiv folded ribbon tweeter, a 3” woven fiber midrange driver, and dual 5-1/4” woven fiber woofers."

Also, I used to own Front L/C/R with Aurum Cantus aluminum ribbon tweeters & Eton Hexacone woofers and they were great for music and home theater.
 

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Also, I used to own Front L/C/R with Aurum Cantus aluminum ribbon tweeters & Eton Hexacone woofers and they were great for music and home theater.
I assume your JBL horn loaded tweets are a little more robust in the home theater department. ;)
 

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I assume your JBL horn loaded tweets are a little more robust in the home theater department. ;)
I just ordered the JBL's last week and haven't received them yet. I've never owned speakers with horn-loaded compression drivers, so I'm excited to get them set up!
I never ran into any issues with the Aurum Cantus ribbon tweeters though. I never blew one and they sounded great. I wasn't especially careful with them either, I turned them up quite liberally.
 

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From their webpage: "The Airmotiv C1+ features a 32 mm Airmotiv folded ribbon tweeter, a 3” woven fiber midrange driver, and dual 5-1/4” woven fiber woofers."

Also, I used to own Front L/C/R with Aurum Cantus aluminum ribbon tweeters & Eton Hexacone woofers and they were great for music and home theater.
They can say whatever they want but it's still not a ribbon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Motion_Transformer


And ribbons lack the needed dynamic range to be true HT speakers. It's not that they can't be good with reasonable volume levels but in larger rooms or a greater listening distances they will struggle to hit reference levels without compressing. There's a reason why theaters use horn loaded speakers with compression drivers.
 

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They can say whatever they want but it's still not a ribbon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Motion_Transformer

And ribbons lack the needed dynamic range to be true HT speakers. It's not that they can't be good with reasonable volume levels but in larger rooms or a greater listening distances they will struggle to hit reference levels without compressing. There's a reason why theaters use horn loaded speakers with compression drivers.
I get it, and I know that. Keep in mind that not everyone is blasting their systems at reference level in a 20' x 30' room. I still think the Emotiva Center channels are likely a good recommendation for OP especially considering his max budget range. The caveat would be if he's wanting to blast his system at or above reference level in a large room.
 

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And ribbons lack the needed dynamic range to be true HT speakers. It's not that they can't be good with reasonable volume levels but in larger rooms or a greater listening distances they will struggle to hit reference levels without compressing.
The large majority of home users never hit "reference levels" (+85db).

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How loud do you listen? Download a free SPL Meter app to your smartphone and find out. Most people are in the 60-75db range. IIf you're like 75-85db, something with around 90db sensitivity would be prudent, such as Chane, HTD Level 3, Ascend 170/340SE or Klipsch RP series. Above that level, you might have to look into the not-cheap PSA speakers.
 

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It's not a ribbon. It's paper.
It's not "paper"---as per your Wikipedia link: "the AMT is made of "a metal-etched folded sheet made of polyethylene terephthalate (PET) film."
 

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They can say whatever they want but it's still not a ribbon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Motion_Transformer


And ribbons lack the needed dynamic range to be true HT speakers. It's not that they can't be good with reasonable volume levels but in larger rooms or a greater listening distances they will struggle to hit reference levels without compressing. There's a reason why theaters use horn loaded speakers with compression drivers.
Even if it's a strip of paper - commonly called a RIBBON - your own link refutes you.
Also, Alcons Audio may have a thing (or 50) to say about "And ribbons lack the needed dynamic range to be true HT speakers": https://www.alconsaudio.com/
A ribbon can be a strip of paper, cloth, metal, etc...
 

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The large majority of home users never hit "reference levels" (+85db).

@IndyJeep

How loud do you listen? Download a free SPL Meter app to your smartphone and find out. Most people are in the 60-75db range. IIf you're like 75-85db, something with around 90db sensitivity would be prudent, such as Chane, HTD Level 3, Ascend 170/340SE or Klipsch RP series. Above that level, you might have to look into the not-cheap PSA speakers.

When watching movies I have the receiver set to between -20 and -15 decibels. Loud enough for the svs and Kenwood's to get a good workout. Normal Tv shows more like -30 to -35. It's not a huge room. Maybe 15 x 20 ft. The Emotiva had a lower sensitivity I saw which worried me with being overpowered by the fronts.
 
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