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Looking for a new receiver and wanted to know if Sony and Pioneer receivers upconvert from composite reasonably well. I'm looking at some receivers from Costco in the sub-$300 range and am kind of a newbie at audio. Can I even find something in this price range for that?
 

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Apparently you are unaware of the difference between upconversion and upscaling.


Upconversion is taking analog and adding the video to HDMI, that is it. It works, or it doesn't. There is no "better or worse" upconversion.


Upscaling(the ability to take 480i/p and make it look 720P or 1080i/p) is "better or worse".


The best "cheap" upscaling receiver on the marker is the TX NR609...if upscaling is your main concern.
 

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No offense Schan, but I think there's been some "worse" analog to digital conversions implementations. I have heard about issues with conversion from a Wii for example. But the one's I have seen seemed flawless.


Note that 1080p TVs will convert to 1080p regardless of source. No receiver support is needed. So the only potentially useful feature, IMO, is a higher end video processing chip in some receivers with options such as noise reduction and similar capabilities. Maybe, just maybe, it may improve a lousy 480 source such as cable.


In your price range, no point to thinking about most of this. If you need analog to digital conversion, make sure the receiver you are buying has it.
 

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In my "defense", I've never seen a receiver that had lousy upconversion. It seems stupid to include upconversion if you can't do that. I bet(cause I've seen reviews as such) the reason why people complain about "lousy upconversion" is because the person didn't realize that just because your receiver upconverts...doesn't mean it scales.


And no scaling of 480 makes for a lousy picture at times. No I think bad reviews of upconversion are from people who don't have the slightest clue what they are talking about.


Example, I saw a review of the Integra DTR 6.8 once that said its upconversion was lousy cause the picture was the same when the video was run through then converted to HDMI in the receiver...


Well, no crap, really??? The picture was the same in a receiver that doesn't have a scaler? I am so NOT shocked.
 

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So I went to take a look and found these two in my price range.


Pioneer VSX-820k $197.99

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...vers/VSX-820-K


Sony STR-DH720HP $279.99

http://www.costco.com/Images/Content...PDF/579720.pdf



Upscaling is important to me. But I'm not naive to think a 480i signal will be 1080p. I just want it more consistent and a bit better video if possible in my price range. The Onkyo TXNR609 is about $400 on Amazon so its out of my price range. I'm not an audiophile, so my needs are small.
 

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Originally Posted by schan1269 /forum/post/20819359


Have no clue where you are coming up that upconversion and upscaling matter when you pick the Pioneer 820, which has neither. So...apparently it isn't a priority...


But the Sony does.


This Pioneer does have it...
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...vers/VSX-921-K


Last years 920 does as well.

Thanks. I need to do more research. I assume "video scaling" is upscaling so that's what I need to look for. Are Onkyo the preferred brands for upscaling like the one you mentioned earlier? Or is it YMMV between models and brands?
 

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Did more research and think the Onkyo TX-NR609 might be good but its about $400-500. Also found a Yamaha RX-V667 nearby for about $300 so I've been doing research on that model too. It seems most people think newer tv's(mine is 4wks old Samsung D6050) perform good upscaling so I should turn it off on a receiver. Is there a way to pick whether the vp is enabled on some sources and not others?


Also, I mostly use SD channels QAM and most come in very good. Some I don't even feel the need for an upscaler. But is getting 720p from 480i not realistic?
 
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