Unfortunately, although advertised as such, you can't turn off the internal amps on the 4311CI either ... rather simply disable any signal being sent to them. You may want to consider the Marantz AV7005 which has no internal amps.
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Receivers that have the option to turn off internal amplifiers
I'm looking for a good solution to use a receiver as a preout processor to feed some Emotiva amps. I don't like the idea of powering the internal amps all the time when they will do nothing other than stay on and give off heat but I also don't want to spring for a $7500 dedicated pre pro like the AVP-A1HDCI either.
The Emotiva UMC-1 doesn't really meet my needs. I've read reports of bugginess, and it's got no HDMI 1.4 etc. I'm just not comfortable with it. The XMC-1 might be what I'm looking for whenever it hits the market but that means waiting awhile and who knows how great the execution on it will be what with the problems the UMC-1 had.
I'm leaning towards a Denon 4311ci as it does what I need, and has what I want (Audyssey, airplay etc.) and most importantly I can turn off the internal amps and use it as a true preout. The problem is that the only real reason I have to go with a 4311 over a 3312 is that I can turn off the amps in the 4311 and it has inputs for multichannel audio which would be nice but not really a deal breaker since the future of SACDs (and the like) in the age ipods is sketchy at best.
(Sidenote about multichannel audio):
I plan on hanging onto this receiver for 8 or 10 years as I have done with my AVR-4802 - which is my current unit that's overdue to be upgraded...so if multichannel audio ever does hits the mainstream it would be nice to be ready for it... the thing is at this point I'm not holding out much hope since almost none of the new music I like is ever released in multichannel and with HDMI and streaming audio becoming so prevalent I sorta doubt I'll ever actually use 7.1 audio inputs on a receiver
So that said I'm not really to thrilled about shelling out double the price of the 3312 for basically two more features. What do you all think? Are there other options out there that I am missing? Can I find a good receiver that does what I want it to do without getting to the price point of a 4311? Is there a list out there of good receivers from other manufacturers that have the capability to shut off the internal amps and function as a prepro without getting so close to the $2K mark?
The Emotiva UMC-1 doesn't really meet my needs. I've read reports of bugginess, and it's got no HDMI 1.4 etc. I'm just not comfortable with it. The XMC-1 might be what I'm looking for whenever it hits the market but that means waiting awhile and who knows how great the execution on it will be what with the problems the UMC-1 had.
I'm leaning towards a Denon 4311ci as it does what I need, and has what I want (Audyssey, airplay etc.) and most importantly I can turn off the internal amps and use it as a true preout. The problem is that the only real reason I have to go with a 4311 over a 3312 is that I can turn off the amps in the 4311 and it has inputs for multichannel audio which would be nice but not really a deal breaker since the future of SACDs (and the like) in the age ipods is sketchy at best.
(Sidenote about multichannel audio):
I plan on hanging onto this receiver for 8 or 10 years as I have done with my AVR-4802 - which is my current unit that's overdue to be upgraded...so if multichannel audio ever does hits the mainstream it would be nice to be ready for it... the thing is at this point I'm not holding out much hope since almost none of the new music I like is ever released in multichannel and with HDMI and streaming audio becoming so prevalent I sorta doubt I'll ever actually use 7.1 audio inputs on a receiver
So that said I'm not really to thrilled about shelling out double the price of the 3312 for basically two more features. What do you all think? Are there other options out there that I am missing? Can I find a good receiver that does what I want it to do without getting to the price point of a 4311? Is there a list out there of good receivers from other manufacturers that have the capability to shut off the internal amps and function as a prepro without getting so close to the $2K mark?
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Thanks for the helpful info!
So much for truth in advertizing....bypassing and shutting off aren't the same thing! A bit disappointed with Denon over that, they should spell it out. With a job where I frequently work around equipment using 230 or 460 volts if somebody told me the power was "shut off" but had really been only bypassed or had the control circuit disabled...that could be a rather *shocking* experience, suffice it to say that's why I always check everything with my own meter first...
I hadn't heard of the AV7005 - I've never really dealt much with Marantz gear - but I must say that I just checked it out some and it's dead sexy! I'll have to spend some time researching it's functionality but maybe you can tell me if it is significantly lacking in any specific features as compared to the 4311? The thing I noticed right away is that the AV7005 has one less HDMI input on the back panel, but that's really no big deal.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie /forum/post/20821203
Unfortunately, although advertised as such, you can't turn off the internal amps on the 4311CI either ... rather simply disable any signal being sent to them. You may want to consider the Marantz AV7005 which has no internal amps.
Thanks for the helpful info!
So much for truth in advertizing....bypassing and shutting off aren't the same thing! A bit disappointed with Denon over that, they should spell it out. With a job where I frequently work around equipment using 230 or 460 volts if somebody told me the power was "shut off" but had really been only bypassed or had the control circuit disabled...that could be a rather *shocking* experience, suffice it to say that's why I always check everything with my own meter first...
I hadn't heard of the AV7005 - I've never really dealt much with Marantz gear - but I must say that I just checked it out some and it's dead sexy! I'll have to spend some time researching it's functionality but maybe you can tell me if it is significantly lacking in any specific features as compared to the 4311? The thing I noticed right away is that the AV7005 has one less HDMI input on the back panel, but that's really no big deal.
The AV7005 is comparable to the Denon 3311CI while the 4311CI is a level above them both as it is a 9.2 AVR (expandable to 11.2) and offers the newest and most advanced version of Audyssey MultEQ XT32 which inlcludes the ability to seperately EQ dual subs using Audyssey's Sub EQ HT.
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