[Acousticality]

hey guys,


Thinking its time to finally upgrade my computer speakers to something a little nicer.


Currently I have a labtec planar magnetic speaker system with a connected subwoofer. The subwoofer has kinda gotten loose and the sub rattles unless I turn it upside down.


I have been looking at a lot of these new two channel speaker systems that a lot of the higher end audio brands are coming out with such as Paradigm, Monitor Audio, Audio Engine, etc. The other option would be to build one with a stereo receiver with two speakers and an external sub.


What are everyones thoughts? Any recommendations?

 

[chickenparm42]


Personally, I use a Klipsch ProMedia 2.1, which is $130 at Best Buy. I like them because they have a sub, but don't take up a lot of room either, but still rock out hard all things considered. I usually keep mine at 30% with the levels at 100% in Windows. I considered going the stereo receiver route, and I'm glad I didn't. Granted, I'm also in a dorm.

 

I know this might be on the low-end of what you're looking for, but I personally really like mine. If you're near a Best Buy go in and try them out. Hopefully someone else hasn't ruined the display model...

 

[jevans64]

I usually recommend powered/active speakers for a 2.1 computer setup since space is usually a premium on a computer desk.


I'd also take a look at Adam, Genelec, Behringer, and KRK.


My 2.1 PC setup consists of a pair of Emotiva Airmotiv 5 speakers, SVS SB-1000 subwoofer, and an Emotiva DC-1 USB DAC. This setup will set you back about $1500. My previous speaker system was a pair of Acoustic Research Powered Partner AV-570 that I used for 17 YEARS. I still have those speakers and use them when I set up at a portable location. I tried pretty-much all of the dedicated computer speakers ( Creative, Klipsch, Logitech, Altec-Lansing ) but kept going back to the AR AV-570 until I heard the Emotiva speakers. I'd probably compare the Emotiva to the Adam speakers since they have a similar driver arrangement but back-ported instead of front-ported. Emotiva updated their Airmotiv 4 and 5 with a more industrial look but the actual performance is similar to the older style.


Technically, you really don't need a DAC, especially if you have a dedicated sound card, but I added one so I could have multiple outputs and USB Class 2 audio support. I build Small Form Factor systems and having a dedicated sound card is generally a luxury.

 

[Acousticality]



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Originally Posted by jevans64  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465440


I usually recommend powered/active speakers for a 2.1 computer setup since space is usually a premium on a computer desk.


I'd also take a look at Adam, Genelec, Behringer, and KRK.


My 2.1 PC setup consists of a pair of Emotiva Airmotiv 5 speakers, SVS SB-1000 subwoofer, and an Emotiva DC-1 USB DAC. This setup will set you back about $1500. My previous speaker system was a pair of Acoustic Research Powered Partner AV-570 that I used for 17 YEARS. I still have those speakers and use them when I set up at a portable location. I tried pretty-much all of the dedicated computer speakers ( Creative, Klipsch, Logitech, Altec-Lansing ) but kept going back to the AR AV-570 until I heard the Emotiva speakers. I'd probably compare the Emotiva to the Adam speakers since they have a similar driver arrangement but back-ported instead of front-ported. Emotiva updated their Airmotiv 4 and 5 with a more industrial look but the actual performance is similar to the older style.


Technically, you really don't need a DAC, especially if you have a dedicated sound card, but I added one so I could have multiple outputs and USB Class 2 audio support. I build Small Form Factor systems and having a dedicated sound card is generally a luxury.

The thing I dont get about the powered speakers that Ive looked at, is HOW do you hook up a subwoofer?

 

[Bill Fitzmaurice]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Acousticality  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465449


The thing I dont get about the powered speakers that Ive looked at, is HOW do you hook up a subwoofer?

One made for computers will connect to the speaker line out of the computer and will have an output jack that the main speakers plug into.

 

[Acousticality]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465469


One made for computers will connect to the speaker line out of the computer and will have an output jack that the main speakers plug into.

No No No, I get that, thats how much current set up is. I mean with these new 2 channel powered setups that brands like Adam and Paradigm and such are coming out with. Those are 2.0 setups, how do you hook a sub to those?

 

[jevans64]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Acousticality  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465449


The thing I dont get about the powered speakers that Ive looked at, is HOW do you hook up a subwoofer?

Plenty of ways. You could use the onboard " subwoofer out " that is on most decent motherboards these days. The SVS subwoofers have a passthrough -- you'd run L/R audio to the sub then run cables to the speakers. They have a selectable crossover that you can tune to your liking. Since I have the DAC, I use the L/R RCA analog to go to the SVS sub and use the XLR to go to the speakers. Only thing I'm doing is keeping the signal digital right up to the DAC and then using the SVS crossed at 80 Hz.


I really find that a subwoofer isn't needed for most music unless it is Rap or Electronica. The Airmotiv 5 outputs plenty of bass when listening to Rock and Classical.

 

[cel4145]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Acousticality  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465365


The subwoofer has kinda gotten loose and the sub rattles unless I turn it upside down.

You should fix that. If it's a loose port, easy to do. And if the driver is loose, that's not going to be good when it works it's way completely loose.

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Originally Posted by jevans64  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465481


Plenty of ways. You could use the onboard " subwoofer out " that is on most decent motherboards these days.

That is problematic with Windows audio unless things have changed with Windows 8. The subwoofer output is designed to be used with multichannel. So when you implement it with a 2.1 setup, it does not work correctly if there is a multichannel source.


I recommend looking into SVS Audio subs. They have an 80hz high pass filter on their left/right channel pass through outputs, making it easy to integrate the sub and speakers.

 

[Acousticality]



Quote:
Originally Posted by cel4145  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465508


You should fix that. If it's a loose port, easy to do. And if the driver is loose, that's not going to be good when it works it's way completely loose.

That is problematic with Windows audio unless things have changed with Windows 8. The subwoofer output is designed to be used with multichannel. So when you implement it with a 2.1 setup, it does not work correctly if there is a multichannel source.


I recommend looking into SVS Audio subs. They have an 80hz high pass filter on their left/right channel pass through outputs, making it easy to integrate the sub and speakers.

So what? I would just run the audio from the back of the computer to the sub, and then from the sub to the speakers? How do you power the speakers?

 

[jevans64]



Quote:
Originally Posted by cel4145  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465508


You should fix that. If it's a loose port, easy to do. And if the driver is loose, that's not going to be good when it works it's way completely loose.

That is problematic with Windows audio unless things have changed with Windows 8. The subwoofer output is designed to be used with multichannel. So when you implement it with a 2.1 setup, it does not work correctly if there is a multichannel source.


I recommend looking into SVS Audio subs. They have an 80hz high pass filter on their left/right channel pass through outputs, making it easy to integrate the sub and speakers.

Agreed. And is why all my machines still run Win 7 or Linux. I also have an SVS sub, but I choose to go through the DAC. I just have whatever software package I'm using combine the LFE with the L&R audio.

 

[Acousticality]

What about these?

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-t-amp-and-b652-speaker-bundle--300-650?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla

 

[cel4145]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Acousticality  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465533


So what? I would just run the audio from the back of the computer to the sub, and then from the sub to the speakers? How do you power the speakers?

You were talking about powered speakers in your original post and were wondering in post #4 how to do it???

 

[jevans64]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Acousticality  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465533


So what? I would just run the audio from the back of the computer to the sub, and then from the sub to the speakers? How do you power the speakers?

From there you would just run to an external amp OR powered speakers. Dayton makes some very small amps and Emotiva has their mini-X a100 with volume control on the front panel.

 

[Acousticality]



Quote:
Originally Posted by cel4145  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465561


You were talking about powered speakers in your original post and were wondering in post #4 how to do it???

So what? I hook the powered speakers up to the back of the sub?

 

[cel4145]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Acousticality  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465565


So what? I hook the powered speakers up to the back of the sub?

Exactly.

 

[Acousticality]

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and:

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-t-amp-and-b652-speaker-bundle--300-650?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla


and:

http://www.svsound.com/specials/outlet-specials/sb-1000-outlet-ba_2#.Ux5RIfmwK8A

 

[jevans64]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Acousticality  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465548


What about these?

http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-t-amp-and-b652-speaker-bundle--300-650?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla

Junk. Minimum would be the Dayton 50w x 2 Class-T amp and a pair of speakers to match the output. You'll be disappointed with the 15w x 2 that amp outputs.

 

[Acousticality]



Quote:
Originally Posted by jevans64  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465593


Junk. Minimum would be the Dayton 50w x 2 Class-T amp and a pair of speakers to match the output. You'll be disappointed with the 15w x 2 that amp outputs.

The amp would be thrown away. The TEAC Amp would drive.

 

[ien2]

If you don't mind running a 2.0 setup using a sat/sub combo there's the Swan M50W's
http://hiviusa.com/shop/mulitmedia-speakers/swan-m50w/

 

[Acousticality]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ien2  /t/1521942/recommendations-for-a-new-computer-speaker-system#post_24465611


If you don't mind running a 2.0 setup using a sat/sub combo there's the Swan M50W's
http://hiviusa.com/shop/mulitmedia-speakers/swan-m50w/

What does this mean? If you have a sub how is it a 2.0 setup?