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How are you guys well I just in my researchs since I was doing every research concerning the other DVR etc to know the characteristics, which I'm about to get tomorrow, (but the most it can go on a chinese forum is 720x576i).


I have found out that in China there exists the recorder which has HDMI inputs:



Also it has more inputs:

2x HDMI (HD)

1x Component (HD)

1x S-Video (SD)

1x Composite (SD)


I don't know if you already it by know but if not get ready to be blown by the recorder but also by the price 500 dollars not counting with the import which might cost a lot more the version before 3700D although it«s called a recorder but it doesn't have inputs at all!


Check out the comparison:
http://www.magictv.com/hk/en/mtv7000d.html


HDCP is not even mentioned anywhere maybe because it's uh ... China or in this case Hong Kong
 

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Sounds interesting, depends on availability and pricing. But unless its "fully compliant" (i.e. "crippled from actually recording anything") there's no way it could be imported to North America without running afoul at the border. Small packages containing mysterious dongles (like the HDfury adapters) can be ordered by individuals and skip past inspection easily, but a larger box containing an obvious recording device is much more likely to get held up. We'll just have to see.


I'm not particularly thrilled with recorders requiring a web connection to their own Guide service- TiVO may have pulled this off, but its been a mess for everyone else who tried it. This recorder also misses the mark in terms of the ridiculously unrealistic expectations Americans have: they want a cheap unit costing under $300 that REPLACES their cable box so they can avoid the monthly fee. This one appears designed to work WITH a cable decoder as an advanced accessory, a nice idea for those who can appreciate it but not the typical consumer. Cable integration is the Holy Grail of American recorders: no one has managed it effectively except TiVO, where it comes at a stiff price and still requires cooperation/hardware from the cable service. Then of course we have the huge penetration of competing satellite services which aren't compatible with anything.


While this MagicTV 7000D would probably not cut it as a mass market item in US/Canada, it would be great to have available as an alternative machine for those willing and able to understand its features. Hope it manages to get here in some form, even if we have to buy a "Now" TV to go with it.
 

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im trying to find a blu ray recorder with component inputs.
 

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According to the web site you posted, the MTV7000D costs $3980 MSRP. That's a bit more then $500. Even the 3700 says it's $2980, which only has dual tuner lilsted as an input, no video inputs at all. Other than that. it simply looks too good to be true. There is no info on the tuners.
 

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I saw some chinese forums commenting that you could record it in 1080p from the HDMI input because people didn't want the Hauppauge also only in China.


Now I saw a blog and wrote to the author of it to get more info but still hasn't responded take a look:

http://www.ordinarygweilo.com/2011/0...-mtv7000d.html


It's a british living in hong kong,


I also saw in my researchs that there exists another one but it doesn't have hdmi inputs and I think it only supports 1080i as component inputs the models are VD-R


here is the website:
http://vdigi.com.hk/productlist.php?cat=5


The model the cheapest must be the 160 GB of course I will call them tomorrow and take a look and tell you what they said to me
 

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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy /forum/post/20809068


According to the web site you posted, the MTV7000D costs $3980 MSRP. That's a bit more then $500.

Hong Kong dollars. Current conversion rate is about $510 USD.


I'm going to check with one of my colleagues in Hong Kong.
 

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Originally Posted by mmihalik /forum/post/20809707


Hong Kong dollars. Current conversion rate is about $510 USD.


I'm going to check with one of my colleagues in Hong Kong.

Cool man thanks please let us know about that me I would rather be interested in V DIGI since it has component input capabilities but I still need to know the exact price of the 160GB and the Rwo version (with no disk)


Also I really need to know if it can record up to 1080i through the component inputs, one thing is certain the USB exportation of recorded shows is a whole new level
 

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If you are willing to spend $500 on a chinese import, just buy a TiVo.
 

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If you are willing to spend $500 on a chinese import, just buy a TiVo.

The thing is that I don't think a TiVo let's you record through hdmi iinput or component input.


Also I am not interest about this unit Magic TV 7000D, I was more interested into DVR2008 which is a Philips but then I understood that it could go up to 720x576i with component inputs and the speed of usb exporting things was more like a usb 1 instead of usb 2.0.


While these ones are more faster in terms of usb exporting, I am interested into the V Digi that has a lot of versions but the one which is cheaper might be the VD-Rwo which has no disk.


Tomorrow I'll ask them about the prices and tell you regarding the Magic TV 7000D it is the price you saw 3980 HK$ Hong kong dollars so more like 500-510 US dollars. (Without counting with the importation)


Philips DVR2008 was and is the cheapest solution but has no HDMI output and slower transfers from hdd to usb so I would prefer the VDigi VD-Rwo or VDigi VD-R 160 GB cheapest
 

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even if the input is non HDCP dont the outputs on the device u are recording from, have to be non HDCP as well for it to record ?
 

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Is there any information on what the tuners are capable of tuning in?
 

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Is there any information on what the tuners are capable of tuning in?

Manual in english says this:


1.3 Magic TVHardware Differences

MTV3x00 Receivers (single and dual tuner models)

Compact case

Add external USB Hard Disk Drives (HDDs) to enable full Magic TV

recording ability

Single tuner allows recording of 2 channels (USB HDD required) and

you can watch a third providing all 3 channels are broadcast on the

same UHF frequency (see table opposite)

Dual tuners allow recording of 2 channels (USB HDD required) on 2

different UHF frequencies and you can watch a third providing it is

also broadcast on one of those same frequencies (see table opposite)

Sigma Designs SMP8655 processor

HDMI 1.3 output

MTV3x00 Recorders (single and dual tuner models)

As MTV3x00 Receivers but adds:

Compact metal case

Internal Hard Disk Drive for extra convenience

MTV7000D Recorder

As MTV3x00 Recorders but adds:

Full size metal case

Front panel buttons

High Definition HDMI and analogue video inputs for recording

external sources (e.g. Now TV and Cable TV)

Channels on same frequencies

(Applies to Hong Kong only. Correct as of 18th June 2010)

UHF frequency#1 CH11, CH16, CH81, CH84

UHF frequency#2 CH82, CH83, CH85

UHF frequency#3 CH12, CH13, CH14, CH15

For example, single tuner models can record channel 82 and 83

simultaneously, and then you can also watch channel 85 at the

same time.

With dual tuner models you could record channel 11 and channel

82 simultaneously, and watch any of 16, 81, 84, 83 and 85 at the

same time.


PAGE 9


Link to pdf file

http://www.magictv.com/hk/downloads/...0Guide_eng.pdf
 

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Isn't the idea of a recorder with HDMI input to enable HD recording, or at least record HD channels onto a DVD? I'd bet that it would be impossible to record HD content using HDMI from any satellite or cable source. That's why my HD DVR has an option to record out only via composite, which sadly defaults to 4:3. The suppliers do not want us to record their 16:9 content.
 

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Originally Posted by Dan Filice
Isn't the idea of a recorder with HDMI input to enable HD recording, or at least record HD channels onto a DVD? I'd bet that it would be impossible to record HD content using HDMI from any satellite or cable source. That's why my HD DVR has an option to record out only via composite, which sadly defaults to 4:3. The suppliers do not want us to record their 16:9 content.
You prob. need a Component- or HDMI-Composite converter as listed here.


(Same answer to your other question in other thread? )
 

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Manual in english says this:

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The intent of my question was, Is that tuner capable of receiving over the air channels in the United States using an antenna?
 

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The intent of my question was, Is that tuner capable of receiving over the air channels in the United States using an antenna?
Page 22 of the User Manual shows a picture of an aerial antenna connected to the device with a coax cable that is connected to the Ant-In connection on the back. I would say "Yes" to your question based on the manual.
 

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Page 22 of the User Manual shows a picture of an aerial antenna connected to the device with a coax cable that is connected to the Ant-In connection on the back. I would say "Yes" to your question based on the manual.
Or maybe just Hong Kong channels since it is not made for sale in the USA?
 

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Or maybe just Hong Kong channels since it is not made for sale in the USA?
In the USA ATSC tuners are necessary to receive broadcast sub-channels:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC_(standards )


Products designed for use in other regions of the world use different television standards:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...nts_by_country


One would have to mount an antenna pretty high up to receive line of sight digital TV signals from Hong Kong.
 
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