[Icee Cee]

I have a dvhs 40k with a dish network 6000 rec, how do i record hd content to a dvhs tape,

i pay 12 $ for the dvhs 420 tapes.

Thanks

Icee Cee

 

[fire407]

The short answer is that you can't record HDTV with your current setup. Here is a longer explanation---signals that are broadcast either over the air or from satellite are heavily compressed down to 19.3 megabits per second, and then your tuner decodes the signal into an uncompressed glorious HDTV picture. An uncompressed signal is almost 1.5 gigabits per second, and there is no way to record such a robust signal on a consumer vcr. However the 19.3 megabit compressed signal can be recorded through a firewire connection from the tuner to the DVHS vcr. Basically the vcr is acting like a bit bucket and just storing the bits until they are played back, so the recorded DVHS picture looks exactly the same as the "live" picture. Now the bad news. There are over the air tuners with firewire out, and some TVs from Sony, Hitachi, Mitsubishi, and Toshiba have built in tuners also with firewire outputs. However there are NO satellite tuners available from the manufacturer with firewire outputs. There is a company called 169time that can modify satellite tuners to include a firewire connection, and if you do a search you will find out everything there is to know about them. On the positive side there are some cable set top boxes now that do have working firewire connections and eventually the Dish 921 is supposed to have the firewire connection activated. Again this forum is full of useful information and you will learn a lot even if you are frustrated with your current lack of recording capabilty.

 

[Emaych]

Where are you getting the $12.00 420s? Are there any cheaper out there? Has JVC come out with the even longer tapes yet?

 

[Ken H]

Read the HDTV Recorders Synopsis.

 

[mrwilson]

I just looked through the synopsis and don't see anything about tapes.

 

[RScottyL]

Quote:

Originally posted by mrwilson I just looked through the synopsis and don't see anything about tapes.

I don't think he was telling you to look through there for info on the tapes, but to get info on what you can record to, and the sources you can record from....if you are wanting to rerd HD.

 

[Ken H]

For tape info, do a search in this forum for Fuji.

 

[Icee Cee]

jvc dvhs tape from sears 420 bought 2 for 12.99 in utica michigan,

abc warehouse 420 for 12.99 jvc

Icee cee

can 921 dish rec record thru fire wire or dish wire to the dvhs vcr?

 

[mrwilson]

you got a good deal then. I can only find the DF300 for $12.99 on ABC Warehouse's website.

 

[Randall Morton]

Try thetapewarehouse. You won't get 12.99 for a 420 but you'll do a lot better than 12.99 for the 300s.

 

[spike4]

"signals that are broadcast either over the air or from satellite are heavily compressed down to 19.3 megabits per second, and then your tuner decodes the signal into an uncompressed glorious HDTV picture. An uncompressed signal is almost 1.5 gigabits per second, and there is no way to record such a robust signal on a consumer vcr. However the 19.3 megabit compressed signal can be recorded through a firewire connection from the tuner to the DVHS vcr. Basically the vcr is acting like a bit bucket and just storing the bits until they are played back, so the recorded DVHS picture looks exactly the same as the "live" picture."


Ok, on the pioneer 5040, the firewire connection on the media box will allow ota digital to be recorded on dvhs from its internal dtv tuner and says no pass through of external sources via the firewire. So this is not a choice by them, since the directv signal via component in is already uncompressed and can not be recorded or stored? correct?

 

[Runch Machine]

Try tapeworld.com for DVHS tapes. The 300s go for $7.75.